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England forwards coach Richard Cockerill laughs off calls to outlaw the maul

By PA
(Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

Richard Cockerill has hit back at calls in New Zealand to outlaw the maul by declaring England will enthusiastically continue to use an important weapon in their arsenal.

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Former All Blacks coach Wayne Smith, who helped mastermind the 2011 and 2015 World Cup triumphs as well as the Black Ferns’ global success last year, believes it is “legalised obstruction” and would “get rid of it entirely”.

England scored three tries through driving mauls in Saturday’s victory over Italy, prompting head coach Steve Borthwick to remark that “they certainly enjoy a maul at Twickenham, so I was pleased to see a few”.

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Cockerill insists the disapproval of Smith, a respected figure in the game, is purely a result of Kiwi shortcomings.

“The game is the game, isn’t it? We can all play the same way or we can all play slightly differently,” England’s forwards coach said.

“Generally, the teams that moan about the maul are the teams that aren’t very good at it.

“English rugby is built on set-piece – the good club teams have a good set-piece. National teams have good set-pieces, whoever they are.

“If we have an advantage in the maul, we should take advantage of it. It would be stupid not to.”

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In addition to the maul being highly-effective in the round two win over Italy, a step forward was taken in the scrum as England look to restore a traditional pillar of their game.

When Eddie Jones was sacked in December, he left behind the worst performing scrum of any tier one nation in 2022. Cockerill is overseeing a rebuilding process that required input from officials.

“We have spent more time on it and we have had a lot of dialogue with the referees, especially Wayne Barnes, Joel Jutge and Phil Davies from World Rugby,” he said.

“Basically we asked ‘what do you think of our scrum, what do we need to work on?’ We have taken lots of inputs from the officials because that has not been as good a relationship as we would have liked.

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“The perception was that we were a little bit ill-disciplined, a bit reckless. We were ranked 10 out of 10 in tier one post-autumn and that tells its own story.

“You should take that personally because that’s part of our identity as a team. We just had some conversations and then we have gone about fixing it, making sure our stability is good and doing lots of reps on the training field.

“The boys have worked hard and we have got a good pack of forwards. It’s just keeping them honest and working them harder than we probably did previously.

“We will get a lot better. Stats-wise we are pretty good at this point but there is still a fair bit we can tidy up.”

Courtney Lawes will resume full training for the first time on Thursday having recovered from a calf injury, with England ready to select him for the clash with Wales on Saturday week.

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Greg 674 days ago

'The game is the game, isn't it'. No Cock, the game has evolved in many different ways if you know your rugby history, but has always been based on one essential rule - that the ball carrier can be tackled. The rolling maul reverses that rule and compounds that nonsense by allowing the ball carrier's team-mates to run obstruction. Smithy's objection to the maul wasn't special pleading for the ABs - look at the stats for the ABs maul and maul defence since Jason Ryan arrived. It's about the spectacle - imagine if the English women had won the RWC final and the enduring memory had been of eight white bottoms wobbling their way forward in unison looking for worms.

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Poe 674 days ago

Cock. Rugby has been tilted north by the pathetic maul fake rugby.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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