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Rising star hoping to learn ‘as much as I can’ from All Blacks greats

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Test centurions Brodie Retallick and Sam Whitelock have formed a formidable partnership in the All Blacks’ second row for more than a decade. Both men will go down in history as all-time greats.

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But change is coming, whether All Blacks fans like it or not.

Following this year’s Rugby World Cup in France, the All Blacks will usher in a new era under incoming coach Scott Robertson.

The man known as Razor, who coached the Crusaders to their seventh title in as many years last weekend, will look to lead a new-look All Blacks side to gory.

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From 2024, the All Blacks will most likely include a mix of fresh faces, rising stars and experienced campaigners – but the team won’t feature the seemingly irreplaceable second-row duo.

Among the players who will farewell the All Blacks after this year’s Rugby World Cup – including the likes of Aaron Smith and Dane Coles – both Retallick and Whitelock will call time on their Test careers.

Retallick will return to Kobelco Steelers in Japan, while Whitelock will join his younger brother Luke at French club Pau on a two-year deal.

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Before All Blacks fans know it, the influence, experience and leadership of the world-class pair will longer take centre stage in the Test arena.

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With more than 240 Test caps between them, Retallick and Whitelock will be tough to replace – but the All Blacks have some exciting options at lock coming through the ranks.

Crusaders captain Scott Barrett would have to be considered a frontrunner for a starting jersey, while Chiefs star Tupou Vaa’i has also shown plenty of promise at Test level in the past.

But another option is Josh Lord.

Lord, who is the fifth tallest player in All Blacks history, has been recalled to the national team ahead of their Rugby Championship campaign.

After spending 11 months on the sidelines with a knee injury, Lord appears intent on adding to his two Test caps next month.

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But, importantly, the 22-year-old is eager to learn “as much as I can from” departing greats Retallick and Whitelock.

“I guess I’m just pretty excited to be back in there in the mix, playing with the best team in the world,” Lord told RugbyPass.

“I guess it’s always going to be pretty special when you’ve got the likes of Brodie Retallick and Sam Whitelock to learn a bit from them.

“I think this is going to be their last year in the All Blacks so I’m just going to take as much as I can from them and take it with me for the rest of my career.”

After spending almost a year on the sidelines, Lord was a bit of a surprise selection in the All Blacks’ 36-man squad for the Rugby Championship.

But amongst all the discussion and passionate debates surrounding the selection of five uncapped players in the initial squad, Lord’s inclusion seemed to fly under the radar.

The rising star was always destined for more Test match rugby after making his debut on the end-of-season tour in 2021, but injuries put those hopes and dreams on hold.

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But with a Rugby World Cup just over two months away, Lord spoke about how “special” it was to hear his “name called out.”

“When you get the chance to work with some world-class players and some bloody good coaches, and hopefully push hard to play a few games and put my best foot forward really,” Lord added.

itely going to be special. There’s been a lot of hard work that’s gone into it from not just myself but the medical team as well as mates and family.

“It’s special to be able to share the journey along with them.”

The All Blacks begin their Rugby Championship campaign against Los Pumas in Mendoza, Argentina, early next month.

New Zealand will then return home to face rivals South Africa in Auckland before travelling across the ditch to play Eddie Jones’ Wallabies at the Melbourne Cricket Ground.

The All Blacks leave for Argentina on Sunday.

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jared 626 days ago

What about Paripari Parkinson next year in ABs? I’ve always rated him. I know he’s injury prone but he’s a big unit, mobile and when firing is a very good lock.

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MattJH 626 days ago

Samipeni Finau at 6, Scott barret lock and tupou on the bench.
I like Dmac at 10, but feel like we’re back in the day with first fives that all have their strengths but no one is the complete package.
I’m a massive Mo’unga fan but the dudes defense is just too much of a liability.
BB telegraphs his passes way too much.
So Dmac is the closest compromise.
I’d also start Tamaiti, let him empty the tank and get subbed rather than risk Ethan getting injured in the first minute and the youngster having to go 79 minutes right out the gate.
Scott Barret is too slow for a six. He’ll get skinned on the scrums.

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Northandsouth 626 days ago

I would play Scott Barrett at 6 for the world cup and carry that into next year. We'll clearly be light at second row in terms of experience, so why not spread the pressure across three sets of 2M-ish shoulders, with him, Vaa'i and Lord all starting. While Ardie is off for a 'break' next year, signs are he'll be back in Black soon, so the lock-style 6 would be counter-balanced by the other two flankers having the skills of a seven. Even more keen on this strategy if Vaa'i or Lord lose form or get injured and we have to bring in someone even less experienced.

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JW 3 hours ago
Crusaders vs Force takes: Let's talk about Sevu Reece, forgotten All Black returns

I think Reece has bulked up too much and now doesn’t have the pace to perform to his previously high standards. He’s making himself less of a winger but I’m not really sure he’s filling another role succinctly either. I think criticism at the AB level has seen him try to redevelop his game, I’m really not sure he can be continued to be used at the highest level. Definitely becoming the wing version Richie Mo’unga is possible (if not already attained) at Super Rugby level however. I loved watching him play when he first broke through.

The Force are undeniably much improved this season, but it’s going to take some reps to prove to themselves that they really can hang with the big dogs.

Yeah they’re still well off in the quality personal front.

It was the 21-year-old’s first appearance of the season, and he certainly made the most of it, with 13 carries accounting for 50 running metres – each of them passing by in a blur as Springer made his may to the try line time and time again.

Will Jordan was playmaking superbly to assist the youngster’s points tally, but it was all individual brilliance in the 53rd minute when Springer tiptoed down the sideline before collecting his own chip kick and outpacing the final two defenders to score under the posts.

After pre-season I said that I wanted Springer to cement the starting jersey, and that (well I’ve not no idea exactly which sides they play) another new wing recruit, Kunawave, would replace Reece as the Fijian Flyer in the team by season end. Reece might be making that tough, but unfortunately it looks like there wasn’t a full squad spot for the young fella and he has since made his AB7s debut instead. Watch this space though as he and Saifoloi look to have the X factor👍


That Jordan pass to Springer aside it was otherwise a very lackluster game for him as he looks to be struggling with processing his option taking in this new style he’s trying. Still have to think a man of that talent and ingenuity is going to make it click sooner or later though!

t’s a congested position, and after Ennor shot down talk of him being swept up by a Top 14 outfit this week, it looks as if the Crusaders have some selection headaches to solve in the coming weeks.

That’s great news. I can’t remember if it was because he actually made his return in pre-season or not but for some reason I was liking how Ennor looked like he might be providing the right options for Saders and even ABs when back. Very pleased to see him fit straight in though there was plenty of space on offer but he almost looked as if he was more dangerous with no space. Could be the long looked for option at 13?

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JW 3 hours ago
Chiefs vs Blues takes: Blues need Spider-Man, McKenzie is All Blacks’ form 10

Chiefs were in the driver’s seat for most of Saturday night’s fixture in the Tron

I don’t know about that. The majority of stats all favour the Blues.

Referee Ben O’Keeffe did show the rising star a yellow card during the second half after a series of infringements from the Blues, but that shouldn’t take away too much from the main point here. Taele looks at home with the Blues in Super Rugby Pacific.

There were a few errors that crept into his performance in that second half, but yes, I was surprised after watching him a few times how comfortable he looked in his role as a 2nd5, and even how well he performed it. It is a shame for Lam to be injured but I picked up a distinct difference in how the backline functioned by having Taele at twelve instead. I might not have given him another go this week but now it will be very interesting to see what Vern does and without knowing what else is going on (Pero might be fit enough to start and psuh Plummer to 12) I think he might start again (Heem has been very very good in the role in recent years, is he fit).

Shaun Stevenson fails to make an All Blacks-worthy statement

He’s leaving Hamish (don’t know how you missed that), it’s impossible to make a statement for AB selection, and that also be well out of his mind.


Watching him in Japan he looked to be struggling as much of his team. Which is often how I think his contributions have depended, how well he fits in with the team. He’s a very unique player and I don’t think the Chiefs have anywhere near the right momentum and structure to unlock Shaun’s strengths. In saying that I thought he played well and that pass showed he’s in a great headspace, you might also be overplaying Corey’s contribution, which from the weekend would be of greatest value if he was Lams midfield replacement imo. I’d like Forbes to return this weekend and don’t think Corey did enough to take that opportunity away from him.

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JW 4 hours ago
Super Rugby Pacific has turned the ship around in the right direction

“We want jeopardy in our competition, right? We want ladder movement. We don’t want teams to stay in the same ladder position that they were in last year.

You need promotion relegation then. You cannot always rely on 4 teams being the right number for Australia, it could mean that they are too strong in future. Or that Fijian Drua doesn’t always has the players to knock of the best.

“We want unexpected results. We want every fan to be sitting here on a Friday at lunchtime going ‘I’m a chance this weekend’.’’ 

Oh, so you want a made up fantasy league like the NFL, rather than a quantifiable competition like NPC, and to a lesser degree, then NRL. Meaningless rather than meaningful, you don’t want the best of NSW taking on the best of Queensland, or the Blues region versus the Chiefs region.


There is still huge room for improvement in the way rugby is played and officiated, it is an incredibly young professional sport. Some of these introduced concepts are tricks taken from others and have done a lot to engage and increase Super Rugby’s appeal, but there has been a hint of whether the game is selling it’s soul to get back on the table.

For me, Super Rugby’s best years were around the turn of the millennium, when the Crusaders and Brumbies held sway. The speed with which possession was recycled at the breakdown and the minutes the ball was in play remains my benchmark for flowing rugby. 

Have you used you’re own license for viewing “feels rather than facts” here Hamish?


I agree, the rugby isn’t as good as it has been at times in the recent past, but it is more engaging. Which I think is due to a whole factor of fortunate and one off reasons, along with targeted ones.

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