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Rival fans take great delight that Saracens are set for the drop

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Many people have taken great delight at seeing the exclusive RugbyPass story about Saracens staring down the barrel of automatic relegation – and they have good reason to. 

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Ever since the revelation in November that Saracens had breached the salary cap over the past three years and were subsequently fined £5.36million and deducted 35 Gallagher Premiership points, there have been calls for harsher punishments for what many fans believe to be outright cheating. 

The reigning European and English champions now have a matter of days to show that they are working within the salary cap for the current 2019/20 season or face expulsion from the league. 

This has meant that some players are expected to be released in order to free up the wage bill. A number of names have already been rumoured to be on the way out, which includes Liam Williams whose return to the Scarlets may now be fast tracked. 

This rather jubilant reaction from many opposing fans, who feel their clubs have been deprived of success during this period, was expected and is justified. 

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Saracens on brink of automatic relegation

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However, many people have also looked at this from the perspective of the players and staff at Saracens who could be in danger of losing their jobs. 

If players were to leave Saracens, either as a result of relegation or cutting costs, the bigger names will not suffer as they will be able to walk into any other team. 

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The ones on the echelon below, however, along with staff members could be deprived of their livelihoods. 

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Some people have also noted that the players would have been complicit in this and should therefore be held responsible as well. 

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That is not a view held by everyone, though, as players would often go to whoever gives them the best offer, not only financially but from a playing perspective as well. 

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The players did not orchestrate this, but some could pay the price, particularly if they lose their job midway through the season. 

While there is always the inherent risk that cuts will need to be made in the event of a team being relegated, this may be different from cases in the past and fans have spared a thought for the players.

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JW 22 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I had a look at the wiki article again, it's all terribly old data (not that I'd see reason for much change in the case of SA).

Number Of Clubs:

1526

Registered+Unregistered Players:

651146

Number of Referees:

3460

Pre-teen Male Players:

320842

Pre-teen Female Player:

4522

Teen Male Player:

199213

Teen Female Player:

4906

Senior Male Player:

113174

Senior Female Player:

8489

Total Male Player:

633229

Total Female Player:

17917


So looking for something new as were more concerned with adults specifically, so I had a look at their EOY Financial Review.

The total number of clubs remains consistent, with a marginal increase of 1% from 1,161 to 1,167. 8.1.

A comparative analysis of verified data for 2022 and 2023 highlights a marginal decline of 1% in the number of female players, declining from 6,801 to 6,723. Additionally, the total number of players demonstrates an 8% decrease, dropping from 96,172 to 88,828.

So 80k+ adult males (down from 113k), but I'm not really sure when youth are involved with SAn clubs, or if that data is for some reason not being referenced/included. 300k male students however (200k in old wiki data).


https://resources.world.rugby/worldrugby/document/2020/07/28/212ed9cf-cd61-4fa3-b9d4-9f0d5fb61116/P56-57-Participation-Map_v3.pdf has France at 250k registered but https://presse-europe1-fr.translate.goog/exclu-europe-1-le-top-10-des-sports-les-plus-pratiques-en-france-en-2022/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp has them back up at 300k registered.


The French number likely Students + Club, but everyone collects data different I reckon. In that WR pdf for instance a lot of the major nations have a heavily registered setup, were as a nation like England can penetrate into a lot more schools to run camps and include them in the reach of rugby. For instance the SARU release says only 29% of schools are reached by proper rugby programs, where as the 2million English number would be through a much much higer penetration I'd imagine. Which is thanks to schools having the ability to involve themselves in programs more than anything.


In any case, I don't think you need to be concerned with the numbers, whether they are 300 or 88k, there is obviously a big enough following for their pro scenes already to have enough quality players for a 10/12 team competition. They appear ibgger than France but I don't really by the lower English numbers going around.

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