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Roger Tuivasa-Sheck won't have space at 12 like he does in rugby league

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Roger Tuivasa-Sheck at 12? Honestly, I’m not sure.

It’s easy to like RTS. The man’s been a model professional athlete, carrying himself in a manner that’s been a credit to himself, his family and every team who’s contracted him.

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He was a very fine player at the Sydney Roosters, but was unable to make a demonstrable impact at the New Zealand Warriors. That wasn’t his fault, more a reflection of the calibre of those two NRL clubs.

We’re now eager to see what Tuivasa-Sheck can do in rugby, where many expected him to pop up on the right wing.

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Instead, we’re told second five-eighth will be his position, which I have to admit feels like a stretch.

I mentioned the goodwill towards Tuivasa-Sheck, because that’s important. People will give him the benefit of the doubt and will forgive whatever missteps the 28-year-old takes, as he returns to the game of his youth.

But the man has made his name – and his millions – playing as an outside back and now faces an uphill task to suddenly turn himself into a serviceable international midfielder.

I say international, because Tuivasa-Sheck won’t have come cheap. New Zealand Rugby (NZR) will want some bang for their buck, which means the man will need to quickly establish himself as an All Black to justify their spend.

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The fact he’s not being seen as a wing – who are frankly a dime a dozen in these parts – probably tells you why the former Dally M fullback of the year is about to play 12. It simply doesn’t make economic sense to have a bloke who’ll be 29 in June chasing and returning kicks, when you could pay someone with less miles in their legs to do it for practically nothing.

Let’s look at the man’s strengths. He has good feet, is quick off the mark, strong, brave, a useful ballplayer and occasionally effective short-kicker.

If I think of a rugby player in my lifetime with a similar skillset, John Schuster comes to mind. Like Tuivasa-Sheck, he was a 12 before going on to play wing in rugby league.

Tuivasa-Sheck has been an adequate first or second-receiver in rugby league and can organise quite well. He’s vocal and a leader and possessed with decent vision.

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But he was at his best in the NRL when in space. It was rare for the first tackler to stop him on a kick return, given his ability to step off either foot.

Tuivasa-Sheck won’t have space at 12. He’ll be taking the ball flat with loose forwards and all sorts to contend with.

He’s not built to be a battering ram or known for an ability to offload in the tackle. Nor, beyond a grubber or two, is he a noted kicker.

And, as Ngani Laumape will tell you, not being able to punt expertly off either foot can be seen as something of a disadvantage when you play 12.

I could see Tuivasa-Sheck at centre, carrying the ball in a fashion similar to Rieko Ioane. Tuivasa-Sheck lacks Ioane’s power and outright speed, but centre would afford him more space to beat defenders one-on-one.

If I’m absolutely honest here, I think he’s been a poor buy by NZR. I think his rugby league career was in decline and that rugby has offered him a soft landing.

Frankly, I don’t think it’ll be long before he ends up playing in Japan.

I get what’s good about him and I readily accept he’s a model pro who will bring a lot to a team environment. I just struggle to see him nailing down a position in the 15-man game, given his age and decade away from the code.

In earmarking Tuivasa-Sheck to play 12, I honestly believe we’re putting him in the least advantageous position possible.

Well, that’s not quite right. He could be following in Benji Marshall’s footsteps and trying to learn to play first five-eighth.

I don’t throw that name in there frivolously, either. Marshall and Tuivasa-Sheck’s games have a wee bit in common and we all saw how badly Benji struggled at the Blues.

I want to see Tuivasa-Sheck succeed and I know that I’m not alone there. He’s a man with a legion of admirers, who was capable of amazing things in the 13-man code.

But I also wrote on this site not long ago that Jordie Barrett wasn’t a bad bet at 12 for the All Blacks and I meant it. We need a physical threat in midfield and Tuivasa-Sheck doesn’t provide it.

I look forward to being proved wrong and to finding RTS can adapt to rugby and can be credible second five-eighth. I’m just not holding my breath.

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Skinny Pins 1059 days ago

A straight switch between Havili and Jordie Barrett would fix a lot of the ABs problems. We would have the second playmaker at 15 Foster has wanted all along (when not misused as a crash ball runner, Havili is arguably NZ's best playmaker), and the big inside centre. RTS should be on the other wing from Jordan, with Caleb Clarke in the mix too. The Barret bros at 10 and 12 with Havili creating from the back would destroy all opposition. I don't know why the coaches can't see it.

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Lele 005 1059 days ago

What a rubbish tall poppy article. Why not introduce the young players in the squad instead of dissing RTS. Obviously a slow day at the office. You're not seer just a plain old journo

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isaac 1059 days ago

He's a former union player...he'll succeed unlike SBW who wasnt a natural rugby player ....hope RTS succeeds like Radradra and makes a name for himself in union as well

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Andrew 1060 days ago

The hype has been almost SBW in its unhinged nature. I hope he succeeds but the coverage hasnt helped him.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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