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Rugby World Cup qualification would ‘open the door to many other dreams’

DUBAI, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES - OCTOBER 05: Amalia Argudo of Spain kicks off during the WXV 3 2024 match between The Netherlands and Spain at The Sevens 2 Stadium on October 05, 2024 in Dubai, United Arab Emirates. (Photo by Christopher Pike - World Rugby/World Rugby via Getty Images)

The Sevens Stadium, way out in the Dubai desert, will be a scene of agony and ecstasy this weekend as sporting dreams are made and crushed.

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Four teams have made it to the final round of WXV 3 2024 with a shot at becoming champions of the third level.

Yet, perhaps more crucially, the same number – Spain, Samoa, Hong Kong China and the Netherlands – are still in contention, mathematically at least, for Women’s Rugby World Cup 2025 qualification.

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Securing passage to the showpiece tournament in England would not only represent the realisation of a personal and squad objective but could provide a transformative impact to those involved.

Qualifying for a World Cup brings with it exposure, sponsorship, funding and crucially, matches. For the players, it promises the potential of the metaphorical shop window and a pathway to a better career.

“Getting the pass to the World Cup would mean fulfilling a dream, giving meaning to a lot of work and sacrifice on the part of all of us,” Spain fly-half Amalia Argudo, whose side top the standings with nine points after two rounds, told RugbyPass this week.

“Furthermore, I believe that fulfilling this dream would open the door to many other dreams.

“I hope that getting the qualification also means a big step forward for Spanish rugby and especially for women’s rugby.”

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By virtue of winning this year’s Oceania Rugby Women’s Championship, Fiji had already booked their place at next year’s showpiece tournament before they set foot in the United Arab Emirates.

For the other five teams in WXV 3, however, the goal – at least one of them – was always to secure one of the two remaining tickets to England available from the third level.

Madagascar, without a point from their two matches so far, know a World Cup debut is out of reach. The Netherlands, meanwhile, have made peace with the fact they probably will not be playing in England next August and September.

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There is a specific set of results that could yet propel the Dutch to Women’s RWC 2025, but given it would need Madagascar to beat Samoa, and by a large score, before they even think about their own match with Hong Kong China, realism has set in.

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In the days after they lost 20-0 to Spain – a result that followed a dramatic 8-8 draw with Samoa – the Netherlands squad gathered to process the fact their wait for a fourth World Cup appearance would go on for at least another four years.

Last Sunday, a group of players headed to a waterpark, others stayed in their rooms to rest or went to a bakery close to their hotel. On Monday, they had a session with the team psychologist.

“It could happen, but I don’t think anyone is expecting it to happen,” Dutch flanker Mariet Luijken said.

“We didn’t make the World Cup and it sucks but I think we’ve all also got over it and we are just trying to show what we can do, and hopefully keep playing at this level and get better and finish on a high against Hong Kong.”

Samoa fly-half Cassie Siataga has been on the opposite psychological journey to Luijken and the Netherlands.

Siataga had the opportunity to win Manusina’s opening match against the Dutch but her conversion, with time in the red, was charged down by Lieve Stallmann and the match ended as a draw.

It was only natural that the playmaker, usually a metronomic kicker who had never previously been charged down, would question whether she had cost her country a chance of World Cup qualification.

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However, with the backing of her team-mates, Siataga kicked 15 points to help Samoa to a 45-17 victory against Fiji.

Manusina now head into their final match against Madagascar with their destiny back in their own hands. Victory will secure their passage to a first World Cup since 2014.

“I myself didn’t have a lot of confidence going into that Fiji game, but the team did. They still had confidence in me,” Siataga said.

“The Netherlands game, it probably rocked me a lot more than anyone else because in my head I was like, ‘Is that our World Cup chances over with that charge down?’

“But I never once faltered in the belief of our team getting the job done against Fiji. So, it’s pretty awesome to think that we’re one game away, one win away from being back in the World Cup.”

The victory against Fiji has given Samoa a huge boost, but Siataga is taking nothing for granted. “We haven’t wavered in our preparation or taken Madagascar lightly in any kind of sense,” she added.

“We just want to keep the ball rolling and step up our game because we know we have so much more to give. And our girls… they’re all in, they all want to go to World Cup.

“We’re all buying into it and at the end of the day, we’re trying to get our people back on the map and do it for our people.”

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It is a similar story for Spain, who know a third successive win would tie up the title and World Cup qualification but need only two points against Fiji to be absolutely sure of the latter.

But having suffered heartbreak in their finale against Ireland last year, conceding 12 unanswered points in the final quarter to lose 15-13 and miss out on the inaugural WXV 3 title, they know there is work to be done.

“We have a very clear objective of winning the tournament and getting a ticket to the World Cup,” Argudo added.

“For me it would be a pride to be able to take Spanish rugby to the highest competition of our sport.”

Hong Kong China are the final team in contention for a ticket to England, and they have an outside shot at the title too.

But given they need at least one of Spain and Samoa to fail to win this weekend, it is no surprise that they are concentrating on performance above anything else.

“We haven’t talked too much about the ramifications,” Hong Kong China head coach Andrew Douglas said on Thursday. “This is an intelligent group; they know the sums and the maths and what it takes.

“So, we’ve tried to focus on what we need to do. We can’t change and control what happens outside of our group.

“So, we’ve just focused on ourselves and tried to really enjoy our last week, enjoy our time together.”

For two teams this weekend, that focus will drift to a glorious month-long odyssey in England next year and the potential opportunities it will open up.

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JW 5 hours ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

Yep, that's exactly what I want.

Glasgow won the URC and Edinburgh finished 16th, but Scotland won the six nations, Edinburgh would qualify for the Champions Cup under your system.

It's 'or'. If Glasgow won the URC or Scotland won the six nations. If one of those happens I believe it will (or should) be because the league is in a strong place, and that if a Scotland side can do that, there next best club team should be allowed to reach for the same and that would better serve the advancement of the game.


Now, of course picking a two team league like Scotland is the extreme case of your argument, but I'm happy for you to make it. First, Edinbourgh are a good mid table team, so they are deserving, as my concept would have predicted, of the opportunity to show can step up. Second, you can't be making a serious case that Gloucester are better based on beating them, surely. You need to read Nicks latest article on SA for a current perspective on road teams in the EPCR. Christ, you can even follow Gloucester and look at the team they put out the following week to know that those games are meaningless.


More importantly, third. Glasgow are in a league/pool with Italy, So the next team to be given a spot in my technically imperfect concept would be Benneton. To be fair to my idea that's still in it's infancy, I haven't given any thought to those 'two team' leagues/countries yet, and I'm not about to 😋

They would be arguably worse if they didn't win the Challenge Cup.

Incorrect. You aren't obviously familiar with knockout football Finn, it's a 'one off' game. But in any case, that's not your argument. You're trying to suggest they're not better than the fourth ranked team in the Challenge Cup that hasn't already qualified in their own league, so that could be including quarter finalists. I have already given you an example of a team that is the first to get knocked out by the champions not getting a fair ranking to a team that loses to one of the worst of the semi final teams (for example).

Sharks are better

There is just so much wrong with your view here. First, the team that you are knocking out for this, are the Stormers, who weren't even in the Challenge Cup. They were the 7th ranked team in the Champions Cup. I've also already said there is good precedent to allow someone outside the league table who was heavily impacted early in the season by injury to get through by winning Challenge Cup. You've also lost the argument that Sharks qualify as the third (their two best are in my league qualification system) South African team (because a SAn team won the CC, it just happened to be them) in my system. I'm doubt that's the last of reasons to be found either.


Your system doesn't account for performance or changes in their domestic leagues models, and rely's heavily on an imperfect and less effective 'winner takes all' model.

Giving more incentives to do well in the Challenge Cup will make people take it more seriously. My system does that and yours doesn't.

No your systems doesn't. Not all the time/circumstances. You literally just quoted me describing how they aren't going to care about Challenge Cup if they are already qualifying through league performance. They are also not going to hinder their chance at high seed in the league and knockout matches, for the pointless prestige of the Challenge Cup.


My idea fixes this by the suggesting that say a South African or Irish side would actually still have some desire to win one of their own sides a qualification spot if they win the Challenge Cup though. I'll admit, its not the strongest incentive, but it is better than your nothing. I repeat though, if your not balance entries, or just my assignment, then obviously winning the Challenge Cup should get you through, but your idea of 4th place getting in a 20 team EPCR? Cant you see the difference lol


Not even going to bother finishing that last paragraph. 8 of 10 is not an equal share.

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