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Sale boss Sanderson has reacted to Northern super club merger idea

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Sale boss Alex Sanderson has responded to a recent radical suggestion that the Sharks should merge with Newcastle and one other club in the region to create a new Gallagher Premiership team called The North.

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Mick Hogan spent more than 14 years working with the Falcons in a variety of roles, while he was also the Sale CEO for a two-year period from 2010. He no longer works in the Premiership, but he isn’t shy about giving an opinion.

Hogan’s latest idea – published in last Sunday’s Rugby Paper ahead of this Saturday’s Sale versus Newcastle league fixture – was the creation of a super club that would pool resources and consolidate the rugby union audience in the north of England. Newcastle quickly clarified that this was a personal piece, not something on the table.

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Sale boss Sanderson has now given his reaction to the super club idea. “Definitely,” he chuckled in response to a query from RugbyPass. “As long as they call it Sale Sharks I’m not bothered.”

In all seriousness, though, while the Premiership title-chasing Sanderson doesn’t entertain the idea of a northern club merger, he welcomes anything that ignites a conversation about rugby in the north and believes that the RFU should be doing more to assist the growth of the sport in the region.

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“Definitely, it’s rugby in the north and Newcastle are part of that. At the moment we are flying the flag for the women’s game because we really think it is important. It’s a massive expense when there is a constant debate, and correspondence with the RFU that we should be helped and supported because there are fewer incentives financially for investors to invest in it.

“But if the RFU is serious about it being a nationwide sport then to some degree help us to subsidise it and the same with Newcastle. The game isn’t feasible. There is less money up north, so how can we keep creating interest from a grassroots level right up to the Premiership in both men’s and women’s so it thrives and it is not just in little pockets? Any conversations we have around that are important.”

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In the past, areas such as Leeds were important drivers of player development but their demise down the grassroots pyramid continued with relegation to the fourth tier of the men’s game. It’s an indication of the reduced window that local youngsters now have to prosper but Sale are willing to do their part, revealing that they have signed two England U18 internationals from the Yorkshire academy to help accelerate their progress.

“There is no pathway for those young lads,” continued Sanderson. “There are still good players. We have signed two for next year, Tom Burrow and Tye Raymont. These are good players and a lot of clubs were after them but at least we have got an affiliation in the north, we are close to the support base.

“They came down, we told them what we are about and they have come to us which I am really grateful for, but there is no aligned pathway there for them to get through to the top level. There is in Newcastle but there probably needs to be someone in the middle as well.

“I feel like if we don’t do something now then it could die, it really could die from a playing perspective, from reaching a new generation of support as well. That is really important.”

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While the overall picture in the northern region has its long-term concerns, Sale are currently on the up as their upcoming Premiership semi-final on May 14 quickly sold out, creating a supply and demand issue that could entice the club to in future seek out a larger capacity ground than the 10,000 capacity AJ Bell for one-off fixtures.

“There has been chat in the past about exhibition games and getting a bigger stadium, but it just hasn’t seemed feasible at present,” explained Sanderson.

“I have asked the question and there is a desire and a want to do that but if you want to change the world you have to start in your own backyard. That is what we have started, making our place [the AJ Bell] a bit of a fortress and if they want to come, then we can look at the bigger picture.

“The first priority has been to create supply and demand, demand for supply at the AJ Bell, and the semi-final will be the fifth game that will be sold out, so we are doing that [making progress]. The Newcastle game is sold out as well. That is a credit to the commercial team; they are cracking on and doing well.”

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GrahamVF 28 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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