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Samoa player ratings vs Argentina | Rugby World Cup 2023

Jonathan Taumateine of Samoa reacts during the Rugby World Cup France 2023 match between Argentina and Samoa at Stade Geoffroy-Guichard on September 22, 2023 in Saint-Etienne, France. (Photo by Paul Harding/Getty Images)

Manu Samoa have fallen to their first loss of the 2023 Rugby World Cup, going down 19-10 to Argentina in Saint Etienne.

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Less than perfect conditions made it difficult for either team to churn through the phases or build significant momentum but it was Argentina who were the more disciplined side.

Los Pumas took a 13-3 lead into the break and despite Samoa grabbing a late try, they couldn’t upset the bookmakers.

How did the Manu Samoa players rate in the loss?

1. James Lay – 7
Made three dominant tackles in the early exchanges when Argentina were hot on attack. Held his own at the set-piece. Off in 55th minute.

2. Seilala Lam – 7
Was involved in everything good that Samoa produced. Similar to his propping accomplice, put in a couple of big hits in the opening minutes of the match and eventually departed the game with 14 tackles to his name. Lineout didn’t function at 100 per cent but the conditions certainly didn’t help. Off in 55th minute.

3. Paul Alo-Emile – 7
Regularly challenged the breakdown. Won his set-piece battle with Thomas Gallo, winning one penalty at scrum time. Off in 55th minute.

4. Brian Alainu’uese – 5
Wasn’t able to show off his trademark physicality but notched up 13 tackles. Penalised for swimming around a maul. Off in 55th minute.

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5. Chris Vui – 5
Strong at the set-piece but has to take some of the blame for his men constantly creeping up offside and infringing at the maul. Hit plenty of rucks.

6. Theo McFarland – 5
Showed good hands at the height of the lineout – including when backed onto the Samoa line – and while mopping up a few ground balls. Threw a dud inside ball that neither found a teammate nor went backwards, handing over possession. Pinged once at the maul and once for creeping up offside.

Points Flow Chart

Argentina win +9
Time in lead
74
Mins in lead
0
91%
% Of Game In Lead
0%
42%
Possession Last 10 min
58%
3
Points Last 10 min
7

7. Fritz Lee – 5
Another big contributor on defence, particularly in the early stages of the match where he hammered Pumas ball carriers back behind the advantage line. Secured a turnover upon Argentina’s second foray into the 22. Crept up offside on one occasion and was also pinged for incorrect entry to the breakdown. Dropped a relatively straightforward pass when Samoa had ignited a counter-attack.

8. Steven Luatua – 6
Useful on defence but wasn’t able to get involved with the ball. Made a big play immediately before halftime, forcing a five-metre scrum for Samoa after a lost lineout in Argentina’s red zone. Off in 59th minute.

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9. Jonathan Taumateine – 7
Brimmed with injury on both attack and defence, making 13 tackles altogether. Won his team a crucial turnover just 10 metres out from the try line when defending with 14 men. Dropped the ball when Samoa had a prime scoring opportunity right on halftime. Grabbed some good metres from clearing box kicks. Hustled well to put Argentina under pressure when they’d stripped the ball off Taumateine’s men.

10. Christian Leali’ifano – 4
Couldn’t find his radar from the tee, converting just one penalty from three attempts. Caught out when Argentina advanced from a free kick, not tapping the ball correctly and handing the opposition a scrum inside Samoa’s 22. While the Pumas didn’t score immediately, they did following Leali’ifano’s next clearing kick, which he was forced to make almost from the dead ball line.

11. Ben Lam – 2
Featured just once with the ball in hand in each half. Copped a penalty for a high tackle in the second, handing Los Pumas a five-metre lineout. Not the easiest conditions for expansive rugby but needed to look for work.

12. Tumua Manu – 6
Regularly rushed up to put pressure on the attack but was caught out offside on more than one occasion. Continued his nice midfield kicking form. Won a breakdown penalty but was also pinged himself for getting a bit overzealous at the ruck. Sparked a counter-attack from deep inside Samoan territory, making fools of a couple of defenders, but it ultimately came to nought.

13. Ulupano Seuteni – 5
Made a couple of good runs. Put in a big shot on Emiliano Boffelli when Argentina looked likely. Penalised once at the breakdown for not rolling away quickly enough. Off in 49th minute.

14. Nigel Ah Wong – 4
An excellent ball-chase and tackle resulted in a penalty for Samoa. Otherwise got caught out on defence on a couple of occasions when he rushed out of the line to put in a big hit. Like Lam, struggled to get involved on attack.

22m Entries

Avg. Points Scored
1.1
11
Entries
Avg. Points Scored
1.7
4
Entries

15. Duncan Paia’aua – 3
Sent to the bin for a reckless and rather silly challenge on Santiago Carreras in the first minute of the match. Fluffed a clearing kick upon his return, sending the ball directly into touch from outside the 22. Didn’t show enough urgency following a bit of a nothing kick from Gonzalo Bertanou and the more aggressive Argentinians were able to force a penalty at the breakdown after wrapping Paia’aua up. Off in 58th minute.

Reserves:

16. Sama Malolo – 6
On in 54th minute. Carried hard when called upon. Crashed over the line with five minutes to play to keep Samoa in the game.

17. Charlie Faumuina – 4
On in 54th minute. Penalised at his first scrum and looked a bit out of sorts.

18. Michael Alaalatoa – 4
On in 54th minute. Wasn’t able to make any sort of impact off the bench and was a part of a fading scrum.

19. Taleni Seu – 5
On in 54th minute. Made some good headway in the wider channels but needlesly offloaded once into touch.

20. Jordan Taufua
On in 59th minute. Like his fellow pine riders, couldn’t add the impact that coach Seilala Mapusua would have been looking for.

21. Melani Matavao – N/A
Unused.

22. D’Angelo Leuila – 7
On in 49th minute. A wrecking ball on the run. Fluffed his first kick-off, sending it directly into touch. Otherwise, brought a strong kicking game to the field, peeling off plenty of metres with every strike. Sent a nice grubber into Argentina’s 22 which created a half chance for Samoa. Took over goalkicking duties from Leali’ifano and converted his one attempt. One of a number of players to drop a ball cold.

23. Danny Toala – 5
On in 58th minute. Made a couple of runs into contact and found some fine distance off the boot.

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JW 38 minutes ago
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Yeah nar I pretty much agree with that sentiment, wasn't just about the lineout though.


Yeah, I think it's the future of SR, even TRC. Graham above just now posting about how good a night it was with a dbl header of ENGvSA and NZvFrance, and now I don't want to kick SA or Argentina out of TRC but it would be great if in this next of the woods 2 more top teams could come in to create more of these sort of nights (for rugby's appeal). Often Arg and SA and both travel here and you get those games but more often doesn't work out right.


Obviously a long way off but USA and Japan are the obvious two. First thing we need to do is get Eddie Jones kicked out of Japan so they can start improving again and then get a couple of US teams in SRP (even if one its just a US based and augmented Jaguares).


It will start off the whole conferences are crap debate again (which I will continue to argue vehemently against), but imagine a 6 team Pacific conference, Tokyo Sunwolves (drafted from Tokyo JRLO teams), Tokyo All Stars (made up of best remaining foreign players and overseas drafts), ALL Nihon (best of local non Tokyo based talent, inc China/Korea etc, with mainland Japan), a could of West Coast american franchises and perhaps a second self PI driven Hawai'i based team, or Jagaures. So I see a short NFL like 3 or 4 month comp as fitting best, maybe not even a full round, NZvAUSvPAC, all games taking place within a 6hr window. Model for NZ will definitely still require a competitive and funded NPC!


On the Crusaders, I liked last years ending with Grace on the bench (ovbiously form dependent but thats how it ended) and Lio-Willie at 8. I could have Blackadder trying to be a 7 but think balance will be used with him at 6 and Kellow as 7. Scott Barrett is an international 6 sized player. It is just NZ style/model that pushes him into the tight, I reckon he'd be a great loose player, and saders have Strange and Cahill as bigger players (plus that change could draw someone like Darry back). Same with Haig now, hes not grown yet but Barrett hight and been playing 6, now that the Highlanders have only chosen two locks he'll be playing lock, and that is going to change his growth trajectory massively, rather than seeing him grow like an International 6.

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Tom 54 minutes ago
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Interesting post. I realise that try was down to Marcus Smith not Slade, this is why I mentioned that England's attack is completely reliant on Smith working miracles. Just wanted to highlight that Slade's little touch was classy and most English players would have cocked it up. Earl has gas, he's very athletic but Underhill is nailed on at 7 in my eyes though. They both need to be on the pitch so we need a tall 6 or 8 to complement them which we have in CCS and potentially Ollie Chessum. We also have young Henry Pollock who may be the 7 by the world cup.


The whole attack needs an overhaul but Richard Wigglesworth our attack coach was a very limited scrum half who excelled at box kicking and had no running game. Spent most of his career with Saracens who mauled, defended and set pieced their way to victory.... Which might have been ok if Felix Jones hadn't quit and been replaced by a guy who coaches Oyonnax who have one of the worst defences in the French 2nd division. I'm not too emotionally invested in England right now because this coaching setup isn't capable of winning anything.


England had no attack when they were winning under Eddie either. They battered teams with huge dominant tackles and won from pressure. The last time England had any creativity in attack was the Stuart Lancaster/Mike Catt era. They played some fantastic attacking rugby but results were mediocre, lots of 2nd place finishes in the 6N although it felt like we were building something special until we got brutally dumped out of our home world cup in the pool stage.

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JW 1 hour ago
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As has been the way all year, and for all England's play I can remember. I missed a lot of the better years under Eddie though.


Lets have a look at the LQB for the last few games... 41% under 3 sec compared to 56% last week, 47% in the game you felt England best in against NZ, and 56 against Ireland.


That was my impression as well. Dunno if that is a lack of good counterattack ball from the D, forward dominance (Post Contact Meters stats reversed yesterday compared to that fast Ireland game), or some Borthwick scheme, but I think that has been highlighted as Englands best point of difference this year with their attack, more particularly how they target using it in certain areas. So depending on how you look at it, not necessarily the individual players.


You seem to be falling into the same trap as NZs supporters when it comes to Damien McKenzie. That play you highlight Slade in wasn't one of those LQB situations from memory, that was all on the brilliance of Smith. Sure, Slade did his job in that situation, but Smith far exceeded his (though I understand it was a move Sleightholme was calling for). But yeah, it's not always going to be on a platter from your 10 and NZ have been missing that Slade line, in your example, more often than not too. When you go back to Furbank and Feyi-Waboso returns you'll have that threat again. Just need to generate that ball, wait for some of these next Gen forwards to come through etc, the props and injured 6 coming back to the bench. I don't think you can put Earl back to 7, unless he spends the next two years speeding up (which might be good for him because he's getting beat by speed like he's not used to not having his own speed to react anymore).

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