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Sanderson: The 'really smart and concise' Lucy Wray interview

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Sale boss Alex Sanderson has described the loss of Worcester and Wasps from this season’s Gallagher Premiership as a tragedy, but he hopes that clubs can follow the advice of Saracens CEO Lucy Wray and expand their future revenue streams to ensure that they thrive. Asked about the depressing financial state of the game in England, the Sharks director of rugby referenced a recent interview that his former boss at the London club gave to City AM.

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He suggested there was a lot in it of use across a league where the number of participants has suddenly gone from 13 clubs down to eleven in the space of just over a week with the RFU suspending both Worcester and Wasps.

Lucy Wray did an article in City AM which was really smart and concise and she doesn’t give many interviews,” said Sanderson, who was at Saracens for the majority of his career before switching back to Sale and becoming their DoR in January 2021. “What she talked about was the feasibility of the game and every club needing to have multiple revenue streams to be able to support the professional side of the sport. Not overspending as teams have done.

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“It is absolutely tragic when potentially people are out of jobs through no fault of their own endeavours, it’s just because the game is not in a good place and has potentially been mismanaged. Both clubs have run up high amounts of debuts and are unable to pay off.

“I’m sure for the most part it was through good intentions but it doesn’t detract from the fact that you lose two huge brands, huge Premiership brands, all the jobs at these clubs and then the ripple effect of families’ lives being affected, it is tragic. It is really, really sad.

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“I hope that we can now use this as a means to change the game for the better. I’ll leave that to the smarter people but there are contracts going to be written after the World Cup and there are PGB meetings going on at the moment. Now is the opportune time to make it more feasible so that clubs don’t go under.”

What happened at Worcester has especially hit home at Sale as it was only last March when they agreed that Steve Diamond, the Manchester club’s former director of rugby, could bring Curtis Langdon and Cameron Neild to the Sixways club for a 2022/23 campaign that was abruptly halted after just three Premiership games.

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“The lads are in touch. Curtis Langdon came around to one of our games, a Prem Cup game, the other week. They still come back and we see them around Hale and Altringham. They are very much part of the Sale family.”

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GrahamVF 1 hour ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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