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Scott Robertson is in rare company with latest ringing endorsement

The All Blacks coach team (L-R) Jason Ryan, Jason Holland, Scott Robertson, Scott Hansen and Leon MacDonald pose for a photo during the New Zealand All Blacks International Test Squad Announcement at Te Pae Christchurch Convention Centre on June 24, 2024 in Christchurch, New Zealand. (Photo by Joe Allison/Getty Images)

If you’re reading this, there’s a reasonable chance you also read the story on RugbyPass in which Laurie Mains was quoted.

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What did you think?

I was quite shocked, myself.

Not because I inherently disagreed with Mains. More the fact that the former All Blacks coach isn’t known for showering people with praise.

In case you missed it, Mains basically said new All Blacks coach Scott Robertson is exceptional, that the players are already emotionally invested in the regime and that he’s now more optimistic about the team’s prospects than he has been in a long time.

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Mains wasn’t a great media performer as All Blacks coach. Nor was he particularly warm with the players, according to those I’ve spoken to from that era.

They respected him, in large part because they felt he knew the game. But as a man often under pressure to keep the All Black job, Mains drove the team very hard.

Former coaches, keen to protect their own record, can be sparing in their praise of those who succeed them. Fundamentally they want New Zealand to do well, but they often qualify their statements.

They rarely come straight out and say what Mains has.

I have to admit his comments made me stop and think.

As I say, this is a man whose analysis of the game is greatly admired and someone not known for lavish statements.

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If he’s this bullish about Robertson’s boys, maybe we should all be?

After all, Mains isn’t one of those people who owes their current living to the All Blacks. Many of those who opine on the game are obliged to cheerlead for the team because it pays their bills.

Mains has nothing to gain from this burst of positivity.

I’d seen the All Blacks’ Rugby Championship squad before I read his comments.

The return of David Havili and Will Jordan, absence of Finlay Christie and inclusion of Ruben Love all enthused me.

The team still has a lot of work to do, but the personnel decisions suggest Robertson does intend playing differently than the team has done in the last six or seven years and will pick players to suit.
There’s been a tendency to put all our best players on the park and hope for the best.

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Fullbacks on the wing, wings at centre, first-fives at fullback, utility loose forwards with no fixed abode.

The premise seemed to be that the sheer level of talent would prevail, rather than a coherent gameplan, given all the square pegs in round holes.

I think we’ll gradually see an end to guys being picked on name, reputation or physical prowess under Robertson.

It’ll be their skillset that matters and how that fits into the overall scheme of play.

When I add that to Mains’ comments, I think I might’ve been a bit harsh on the team so far this season.

We should always expect a lot of the All Blacks and always assume that a new coaching staff will bring new ideas and methods to the table.

But the changes won’t always be immediate and nor will the opposition always allow you to implement them. England played very well here and, perhaps, they’re more worthy of praise than the All Blacks are of criticism.

That’s not to say this team doesn’t have to get better in a number of areas. They do.

But the Rugby Championship squad showed evidence of a plan, rather than just picking all the usual suspects and hoping for a better result.

I didn’t discern much that was different about the All Blacks in their series against England and, as a result, that didn’t instil huge confidence in Robertson.

Maybe we’ll all see what Laurie Mains has seen as the season continues.

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MattJH 38 days ago

The Gainline Analytic guy on Aotearoa Rugby Pod talked about this.
To have all new management is a huge upheaval.
They couldn’t change the entire plan and players overnight as well; it would have been chaos.
There has to be as much cohesion as possible as the new players are brought in.
So thanks for that Finlay, you helped out for a couple of games to settle Cortez and Noah.
TJ has seen the writing too.
I think they’ve been very smart about it all.

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Locke 38 days ago

Mains is honest enough to recognise that Robertson’s on-field results are exceptional, and that’s the only thing that really matters when you want to continue the same trend for the All Blacks. There’s no guarantee that Robertson will succeed at international level but the evidence shows that he’s the most likely to do so.
Conversely, the elitist stooges in the NZR boardroom chose to pander to Foster’s netpoistic behavioural traits rather than reward real world competency. They’re probably to wrapped up in their own self-importance to acknowledge their error.

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GM 38 days ago

Might be a wee bit premature with the praise. Some good moves, like Love and Hotham and Lord, but also some retrograde ones , like TJ (over Christie, whose box kicks were much more accurate once he settled in against the Poms) and Cane and Havili (who might also be gone by the end of the season). Some confusion also - Narawa was dropped without much chance to shine, (for which he should blame Jordie) and instead we now have 4 fullbacks in the squad - BB, Jordan, Love and Perofeta - not to mention the likes of Jordie and Havili who can also play there! I reckon it’ll only really become Razor’s Gang when we get to the northern tour at the end of the year.

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Bruiser 39 days ago

Bringing back Havilli only faux pas so far

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dk 39 days ago

I couldn't agree more Hamish. Particularly with the square peg in round hole point of previous coaches. We’re only three tests in with the team still learning the new coach’s direction. The way we want to play will influence the players selected. Just look at the change to Hotham. Exciting times ahead. Especially with Havili back in the squad. Hopefully a sign that our midfield is going to try more than just run into tacklers without thinking about passing. In ALB, Proctor and Havili, we definitely have more inventiveness.

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JW 7 minutes ago
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Two seasons ago now but yeah I'm happy to bring those players into the 23. I know it was SA Havili had the game against but I'd still like to keep it simple with Barrett and Reiko's direct style against rush D like SA and Englands. Every other team Havili would be good against (if that theoretical form is there in his play), and perhaps with facets like the World Nations Cup coming up for and against scores will actually matter and the balance of say using a Havili or Proctor or Tele'a actually provides a real and tangible benefit to playing them other than just ensuring player welfare of the incumbents.


Depending on how things go that might even work for players like Jordan. Perhaps Jordie is actually the fallback against teams that use contested kicks? Heaps of personal options they could open up if they actually thought selecting players for the opponent was a useful strat. I guess my personal judgement is that Havili, Hoskin's, Akira aren't good enough to crack that big match starting spot so I'm not too heavily invested in it. Your idea might be the best now though, as in the past players have not been upto speed coming home from playing in the JRLO but the trick this year to get them straight back in the All Blacks(ie after a relatively short time) might have seen different results. I'm not sure it has with Ardie and Beaudens performances. Jury is still out on Cane's performances. I thought he was good but he was in NZ for 4 months injured and had time to prep and condition himself for test level, and its only two games so far. Both Beauden and Ardie have shown signs they can peak again but I think both have suffered being so heavily used (having both not got off seasons and not playing at a high level) I beleive. So perhaps the idea isn't for sabbaticals were players have earned the right to swap SR for JRLO and still be considered first choice All Blacks, but were theyve earned the right to swap SR for JRLO and be automatic squad selections. So if they choose to take a sabbactical they basically forgoe any seniority and form in the All Blacks, but they are gaurenteed selection. So that means if Ardie wasn't to start, he has to prove he's back at last years form (which he clearly hasn't been doing). That would have allowed Razor to select Sotutu and promote him to the No1 8 if he wants it until Ardies is back playing SR and proving he's still the best. So that change to sabbaticals means two effective things, you can now offer more of them (because they aren't gated and only given to people NZR think can come back and be starting ABs again), and in so perhaps keeping people like Big Leicester and Frizell on the books and ensure their return and save more money, and you can drop the typical sabbatical clause that they return to where they left off. Basically they are sabbaticals but taylored to rugby sabbaticals.

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Bruiser 25 minutes ago
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The thing I like about Razor is his open mind to making changes with players and staff and doing it quickly. This is a 2 year mission to find the right mix and playing style in the squad. If this is SAs high water mark then fine but we have players and IP to make massive improvement if we keep being brave with selection and evolving. The front row stocks look best in decades. Williams has held up well in last 2 tests and with Ethan DG to come back, Aumoa progressing and Tosi still a prospect, then we have some good years ahead. Most of the front row apart from Taylor have at least 2 world cups in them. Most of the SA front row are over 30 now. We are light at lock, so need to push on with Darry and get Lorde bulked up. Vaii has really stood up this year...is he potentially a no 8 we need for bulk get over the gain line, who can sub at lock and no 6/8? The back row is still the biggest conundrum to solve. Wallace is a special talent and needs to managed to become a lock in at 6 or 8. Ardie and Daltz would be great to cover 7 and 8. Lock in Frizzell till next world cup and we will have some depth. TJP needs to be shipped now. HB looks very promising with Hoatham, Cam and Ratima. Noises were made about us running more from 9...I would love to see us challenging fringes more with these 3. CR is particularly dangerous around the ruck. If we get RM back , then him and Mac cover 10 and Mac backups 15. Big fan of Beaudie but his time is up...too gun shy now. The rest is there...I like the idea of Reiko starting at 13 then pushing to wing. Jordan needs more runs at 15, but he can also sub to wing, meaning we dont need a wing reserve. Caleb must start and keep him getting stronger...he still has upside. I would rather lose a few more this year to develop the younger guys. Push on Razor with the revolution.

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