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Scott Robertson talks 'the art of coaching' in first interview as All Blacks coach

New All Blacks coach, Scott Robertson, coaching for the Barbarians. Photo by Ryan Hiscott/Getty Images for Barbarians

New All Blacks coach Scott Robertson officially took over the role from Ian Foster on November 1 and has been quietly going about his business since.

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The seven-time Super Rugby champion coach has been busy finalising his wider staff having already revealed his assistant coaches and a handful of other appointments.

A stint in France to catch some of the Rugby World Cup action preceded a gig assisting Eddie Jones’ Barbarians team, who lost to Wales in a farewell showpiece for 170-Test legend Alun Wyn Jones. But, now it would seem it’s all systems go in All Blacks camp.

The highly anticipated Razor era is upon us and the coach is under no illusions of the challenge ahead of him, dealing with an exodus of veteran talent as well as the jump to international-level coaching.

His first interview as All Blacks coach was predominantly focused on promoting gut health, as he and former All Black Israel Dagg joined forces with the Gut Foundation to raise awareness for the “review your poo” initiative, which aims to protect Kiwis from bowel cancer. He was also inevitably asked about the All Blacks.

“You’ve got your models, you’ve got your structures and you coach the best team in front of you,” Robertson told New Zealand’s AM show.

“I’ve got the way I coach, you don’t change yourself as a person, but you might change a few things around your models.

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“Test matches are different, they’re played a little bit differently. You’ve got to bring people together pretty quickly and create a strong narrative and connection.

“That’s the stuff I love – get a story going that connects us. I’m looking forward to it.”

Indeed, the narratives Robertson carves for each campaign have become well-known as the self-proclaimed storyteller works to offer his team a crystal clear identity.

While Ian Foster this week took time to emphasise the amount of young talent that has been blooded in recent seasons in the black jersey, Robertson will lose the services of eight of New Zealand’s finest players in 2024. Names like Sam Whitelock, Aaron Smith, Brodie Retallick and Richie Mo’unga will be absent from the coach’s first team sheet.

“You can never replace experience,” Robertson said. “But you can replace that with talent and coach them, and give them opportunities to perform. That’s the art of coaching.”

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With remarkable expectations on his shoulders, the coach has been chewing through “a lot of interviews”, bringing “a great crew together” to lead one of the world’s most successful teams into another World Cup cycle.

Robertson says he will travel around the country to pool the local rugby communities’ knowledge and perspectives on how best to take the game forward.

“Now it’s time to get around the grounds, talk to people, get a lot of information about guys who are currently in there and who are leaving.

“So, I spend a lot of time talking to those individuals, getting the tip of the gold out and what’s required for the All Blacks, they believe, moving forward.”

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Gert 393 days ago

Imagine the excuses from JK and Goldie when Rassie outsmarts Razor….

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Chris 394 days ago

It’ll be interesting to see Razor vs Rassie. Can’t wait. Two master coaches head to head. One the all star rookie the other the RWC GOAT. I think we get to play the All Blacks in South Africa next year because we played them in NZ in 2023. Great game in the making.

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Spew_81 394 days ago

It’s going to be interesting whether he focuses on building for RWC 2027, or getting the All Blacks winning, immediately, again. Will the NZRU give him the same leniency that they gave Foster?

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JW 5 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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