Northern Edition

Select Edition

Northern Northern
Southern Southern
Global Global
New Zealand New Zealand
France France

Scott Robertson's view of the Springboks and whether the All Blacks have to emulate them

Beauden Barrett of New Zealand scores his team's first try during the Rugby World Cup Final match between New Zealand and South Africa at Stade de France on October 28, 2023 in Paris, France. (Photo by Michael Steele - World Rugby/World Rugby via Getty Images)

New All Blacks head coach Scott Robertson has offered his view on whether the All Blacks have to change and become like the Springboks in order to win World Cups again.

ADVERTISEMENT

South Africa claimed a fourth men’s Rugby World Cup title after defeating the All Blacks 12-11 in the final last year after goal kicking misses left points on the pitch in a tight affair.

Former All Black Sir John Kirwan said that the Springboks had completely “changed the way they play” just to win World Cups.

Video Spacer

Video Spacer

While Robertson stopped short of saying the All Blacks had to change everything and follow South Africa’s approach, the new All Blacks head coach said he wants the team to evolve in order to win in multiple ways.

“Test football is a game of strength, the World Cup is a game of finals and strengths,” Robertson told Sky Sport NZ’s The Breakdown.

“That’s what they [Springboks] play too. They are a great defensive side, great kicking side, great set-piece side, and they kick the goals to win.

“The majority of major events with ‘kicking’ involved, finish with a kick to win it. Soccer, [American] football, rugby, league, the critical ones are won from the foot.

ADVERTISEMENT

“And they won it off the foot. They made the kicks. Incredibly tight margins at that level, they went back to what they were good at, and that’s the shape of the game.

“The big part for me this year is to win and evolve, so we can win in two to three different ways. That’s the key to bringing success over a four-year period.”

The champion Crusaders coach listed winning in wet conditions, winning away from home in different environments as key milestones to tick off, while embedding the “game management” understanding within the team.

Robertson wants different defensive structures for the different opponents the All Blacks will face, which will likely take time to master.

ADVERTISEMENT

The new head coach was optimistic about the squad he has inherited after having the chance to work with the players in January in camp.

“We’ve got a great balance of players that are in their late 20s that have been there and done it,” Robertson explained.

“We know that every World Cup cycle you are going to lose, guys are going to move on, that’s part of it.

“We’ve got a great group that are still hungry. Haven’t quite got there but know and experienced it, care deeply about the All Blacks.

“There is a young group coming through that are ready to take that opportunity as well.”

Related

ADVERTISEMENT

LIVE

{{item.title}}

Trending on RugbyPass

Comments

80 Comments
a
andre 272 days ago

…I must say, you AB’s have developed a mean chip on the shoulder . Yikes !!

J
Jmann 274 days ago

ABs defense is top notch. When was the last time the Boks scored more tries than NZ in a game of rugby where 15 men played against 15?

rugby’s biggest issue is the officiating and the appalling nonsense around Red Cards.

B
Bob Marler 275 days ago

I’m not sure fiddling with different defensive structures for different opponents is the right noise coming from Razor. I think nailing one is the way to go. There were a few criticisms levelled against the ABs defensive systems that had not evolved very much “since Smiths days”.

The ABs have always been a team to win by scoring tries. And plenty of them. Home or away, wet or dry. In sickness and in health. That’s their DNA and that needs to be the focus.

S
Shaylen 275 days ago

All Blacks should just stick with what they do best. They have the players and right mentality and its a young squad. They will be right up there in 4 years and they have a good proactive coach now

N
Naas “Mkhize” Botha 275 days ago

The way Razor is being hyped up will leave some fans disappointed this year. So much pressure before he has even started, keep in mind Super Rugby is not the same as international rugby

T
Turlough 275 days ago

The Boks outstanding win in the RWC was against France. I think only the Boks could have beaten England and NZ after that, so won it the hard way.
That said the ridiculous draw and scheduling made the winner out of the Top4 more of a lottery than it should have been (eg England could have and arguably should have beaten the Boks, which is ridiculous). If England beat the Boks, NZ win. If Ireland aren’t scheduled to play Scotland 7 days before NZ, do Ireland win the QTR?
Too much of a lottery with the bad draw and scheduling.

As an Irish supporter I accept a better team (on the night) eliminated us in the QTR. Can we all pressure the powers that be to have a balanced draw AND schedule from now on?

R
Red and White Dynamight 276 days ago

Diplomatic from the AB coach. He knows the Boks prefer to play without the ball and are a limited team outside the pack. Boks were winners of the LOTTO Cup, they’ll be handed their lollies by Ireland and ABs again. Couldnt score 1 try against 14 men, didnt even come close. Ireland spanked them, again, and Boks only scored from an obvious forward pass.

R
Rugby 276 days ago

oh please please give us another quote from Jeffrey Wilson, “boks gonna fake an injury to one of their 4 half-backs, send him home and bring Pollard in” haha. Nobody picks 4 half-backs

Bula

M
Mark 276 days ago

So he's more or less saying if the Abs had world class goal kickers they would hold the world cup? The Boks only lost to Ireland because their sharpshooters had a ridiculously bad day with the boot,they had the best goal kicking in the tournament which in the end was the difference that won it for them.

W
Wayneo 276 days ago

If you don’t have to change everything and follow South Africa’s approach, then why would there be a need to “evolve in order to win in multiple ways”???

Just more gaslighting than hot air.

Load More Comments

Join free and tell us what you really think!

Sign up for free
ADVERTISEMENT

Latest Features

Comments on RugbyPass

J
JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

287 Go to comments
LONG READ
LONG READ Despite defeat in Paris, the real reason the All Blacks are feeling upbeat Despite defeat in Paris, the real reason the All Blacks are feeling upbeat
Search