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Shaun Edwards' 'sense of injustice' about French World Cup exit

Shaun Edwards at work with France (Photo by Shaun Botterill/Getty Images)

Shaun Edwards has revisited his frustration at seeing France knocked out at the quarter-final stage of their own Rugby World Cup. The French were hotly tipped as a favourite to win the tournament, but they were eliminated by eventual winners South Africa following a classic last-eight encounter that finished 29-28 for the Springboks in Paris.

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Just over 12 weeks on from that agonising October 15 defeat, Fabien Galthie and co are laying the groundwork for their upcoming Guinness Six Nations which commences with a February 2 meeting with Grand Slam champions Ireland in Marseille.

Squads for this tournament are set to named in the coming weeks ahead of the tournament’s January 22 media day in Dublin.

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In the meantime, Edwards has reflected on France’s World Cup near-miss, outlining in the latest edition of the monthly Rugby World magazine his sense of injustice that his team were only quarter-finalists but also an acceptance that he wouldn’t change a thing about their preparations for France 2023.

“Sometimes you get a sense of injustice,” he admitted ahead of a Six Nations campaign that will conclude for the French with a March 16 home game in Lyon versus England, the World Cup’s best-placed European team as they finished third thanks to their bronze final win over Argentina in Paris.

“I thought we played some magnificent rugby, both in attack and defence throughout the competition. But South Africa, fair play to them, they found a way to win the game, which is not unusual for them.

“They continued in that vein, winning every game by one point. Due credit to South Africa. But we’re obviously aggrieved in some certain ways. It’s probably one of… a very, very difficult loss for us and for me.

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“Our attackers caused a lot of problems for the defence. They posed a lot of problems for our defence with a different tactic, the up-and-under. There are many different ways to score tries in rugby and you only get the same points.”

Asked what would he change about the French World Cup preparations, Edwards added: “Nothing, I thought everything we did was aligned to winning. We beat New Zealand in the first game and I thought our performance against Italy was outstanding. You have to remember we only beat them by one score the last time we played them. I thought the real France turned up on the night.

“I don’t think we could have done anything more. The fitness in Monaco (at a pre-tournament camp) was a very high standard. The guys trained extremely hard and were in great shape. That was proven in the first game against New Zealand.

“It was played in unbelievable heat. It’s one of the hottest games I have ever been involved in. I’ve played in Papua New Guinea, in North Queensland, and that was boiling. So I don’t think I there is much more we could have done.

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Fair play to South Africa. In rugby, you get knocked down and you’ve got to get back up off the floor, shake your opponent’s hand and wish them luck. That’s what you have got to do.”

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Turlough 314 days ago

Agree that France made costly selection error including playing Dupont in the second half against Namibia. South Africa needed a high try turnover off the new cross field up and under tactic and they got 2 tries out of 3 from that including Arendse’s pushing Fickou into two other French players for the first. A sub-par Dupont coughed up a try and a penalty.
France couldn’t come back after Etsebet’s try. Ramos kicking straight into touch showed that their habit of pulling games out of the fire could not survive the heat of a quarter final against South Africa. That was the highest standard of rugby that SA played in the knock outs by a mile and it was needed. Great win and the narrow scrape against England left them with just enough to take the cup.
France’s reliance on flair rather than game play and pressure to win tight matches is not up to RWC winning standard. SAs is.

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Pecos 316 days ago

Using words like “sense of injustice” & “aggreived” is either sour grapes or denial. Either way, get over it. Also referencing beating NZ in a pool game shows a lack of insight. Pools are merely about qualifying for the quarters. Everything else is irrelevant at the knockout stage.

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Bob 316 days ago

France vs the Boks was the best match of the RWC for me. Peato Mauvaka was a revelation and had an incredible match. MOTM for me.
The Etzebeth try was the nail in the coffin for the French - they could not lift after the try.
Pollard’s kicking in the second half had Bielle-Biarrey scurrying around and he was caught out of position on several occassions.
The injustice Edwards should be aggrieved about is that the Frech picked an inexperienced wing against the best kicking team / flyhalf in the world. That while they had Jaminet & Villiere at their disposal. In the end it was poor team selection that significantly impacted France’s chances of progressing to the semi-finals.

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Euan 316 days ago

Unfortunately, you didn't teach your team how to clean take the high balls. As simple as that.

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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