Sione Tuipulotu admits he nearly left Scotland just weeks into move

Why I said with soccer so big all around the world, rugby is played also nearly as much in as many countries, why we need a transfer type of system. World Rugby try to grow the sport but in doing so, more and more players gets involved and the system is completely outdated. Doesn't fit the current bill of needs.

Instead of tinkering with the laws and trying to make rugby a copy of rugby league, they should rather focus on what would make the game bigger and better. For any product to sell, you need to advertise that product. Same with rugby. Players need to be recognised or get a chance to be recognised by other clubs. More players would stay in the game instead of leaving and make it a living. How many players have been lost that would have stayed if they could make a living of rugby?

I'm sure a lot of people will have their own opinions on what type of transfer system would work and what wouldn't. I'd love to hear and see such a discussion myself, what people's thoughts are around this. Most of us is only focused on our countries and club teams, but we don't really know much about the struggles players have and sacrifices they have to make etc. With a system in place to advertise them, say 2 transfer windows or something, would help players, especially those who do not get much match time and therefore not much money. Those players could earn extra by being loaned out during those windows.

Like you said, different types of transfer markets will have to be created, in each country and internationally. Compensation would play a role as would taxes, by the club's, the scouts, the managers, the countries etc. No small job and seem impossible, but it's not. TV rights and all sorts of things. A massive job by all accounts.

I think we've already seen how his play slipped a bit after being asked to start at 15 a couple of times haven't we?

Interesting about France, what was it like when the league started though? That would be the only relevant point in this discussion (yes once the SAn teams get up and running they can do what you describe happens in France).

I love how this debate is going to continue on through Mo'unga's return (I can guess what you've posted, you can link it in commens now) in a few years time!

NZ don't get an anthem?

Can't they do/hymn something else? England have done exactly the type of thing you describe for decades, it's not an issue with NZ, this sounds like some Welsh problem.

Take for instance this market of players, teams have paid for that information and scouts are huge in football. In NZ there are no scouts basically. A players union will recommend a player be identified by the higher up rung. Players go through this stepping stone and all the information gather one they enter it is kept with NZR. This is completely the opposite of how it grew in football as I understand. For all these benefits to happen there would need to be a world first global 'transfer' system were each country is prepared to share their information. Perhaps rather than relying on a 'fee' for each transfer to go to the home union, "tax's" could be collected by a global body and a country like NZ or SA who only export could receive "payout" each year?

Otherwise a transfer fee is just compensation to a body who has contracted (ie invested) a player, and the value of the fee is to make up for the costs of not just what you haven't got out of that investment yet, but what you are not going to receive if you let a player go early. So overtime, yes, this meant that teams basically raised the fee because in all likelyhood they were going to replace a player by paying a fee to another team for the release of a player you like there. A cool 'system' but not one that is too relevant to what were looking for by the way.

I'd love to hear what you might like/want to see, to create discussion, I'll suggest that right now, there aren't really enough rungs on the club ladder system for it to work as well as football? Like all leagues are very similar and it's always just a side movement really, don't we need like an EPL, then a Eredivisie, then a Brazilian Serie A etc? NZ has some youngsters that go to MLR and come back when they are grown physically, but it doesn't really work the same as a Brazilian going to europe for like Sporting and then onto Madrid. Certainly in that rugby circumstance it is a lot more about the player have contacts that have contacts with MLR etc, rather than a MLR team saying we need someone to fill x position/role and looking at this list of targets we'd like to know more about/speak to y player. The scouting of such a system is vast, but a lot of computer games have their own made up ones so couldn't a software company just create one in rugby for us without any 'transfer' component?