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Clive Woodward gives shock early prediction on 2023 World Cup champion - and it's a team that's never won before

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France will win their maiden World Cup crown on home soil when the tournament is next hosted on Europe’s mainland in 2023.

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That’s the verdict from former World Cup-winning coach Clive Woodward, who made the claim while writing in his latest column for the Daily Mail.

In it, he suggests that France have become the benchmark for his former England side to aspire to if they are to go one better than their runners-up finish at last year’s showpiece event in Japan.

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“All my coaching life, and now working in the media, I have viewed the southern hemisphere giants as the test benchmark. Beat them regularly, especially away from Twickenham, and you will eventually be the world’s best,” Woodward wrote.

“As we look forward to the final weekend of the much-delayed 2020 Six Nations, however, I feel it is France who England need to measure themselves against.

“Three years out from the World Cup and France, on home soil, are my tip to win it. From this point, England need to match them in all departments.”

Both teams are in a three-horse race, along with Ireland, to claim the Six Nations title this weekend.

The competition resumed lat weekend after a seven-month delay due to COVID-19, with the Irish pinching a bonus point win over Italy to lift them to the top of the table, one point clear of England and France.

While England face Italy in match that the former side are heavily expected to win, this weekend’s final round concludes with what may be the championship-defining game between France and Ireland in Paris.

Given how Les Bleus performed in their 38-21 warm-up victory over Wales on Saturday, it wouldn’t come as a surprise to see Fabien Galthie’s side clinch their first title since 2010.

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Even if they don’t, Woodward believes there is plenty to like about the current wave of French talent.

“The French aren’t the finished article but I see an exceptional generation of brilliant players – forwards and backs – maturing together,” the ex-British and Irish Lions coach said.

“Once Fabian Galthie and [assistant coach] Shaun Edwards sort out a few loose cannons up front and get on top of the discipline issue they are going to be formidable.

“I see potentially the world’s best halfback pairing in Antoine Dupont and Romain Ntamack, a fantastic centre pairing of Virimi Vakatawa and Gael Fickou, try-scorers like Teddy Thomas and magic players like Thomas Ramos.

“In the forwards, led by the amazing Camille Chat, they are big, athletic and nasty.

“There are still creases to iron out but France are only going one way, as we saw in their convincing win over Wales.”

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fl 7 hours ago
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Smith generally isn't well connected to his forward pods; doesn't do a great job of distributing to those around him; and has inferior positional and contestable kicking games than Ford and Fin.


When England have had success over the past few years, its been either through (i) defensive rugby backed up with smart tactical kicking or (ii) high possession attacking phase play based on quick ruck ball. George Ford was key to the implementation of (i) in the RWC, and in the 6N win over Wales, and to the implementation of (ii) in the 6N games against Ireland and France. Smith did great at (ii) when running at tired defenders at the end of the Ireland match, but has never successfully implemented that gameplan from the start of a test because he doesn't distribute or support his forwards enough to create consistent fast ball and build attacks over multiple phases. Instead, his introduction to the starting side has resulted in much more playmaking responsibilities being forced onto whoever plays 9. Alex Mitchell copes ok with that, but I think he looks better with a more involved playmaking 10 outside him, and it really isn't a gameplan that works for JVP or Spencer. As a result of that the outside backs and centres have barely touched the ball when Smith has been at 10.


This might not have been too much of a disaster, as England have seemed to be moving slightly towards the sort of attacking gameplan that France played under Labit and Quins play (I think this was especially their approach when they won the league a few years ago - but its still a part of their play now), which is based on kicking to create broken field rugby. This is (i) a sharp departure from the gameplans that have worked for England in the past few seasons; (ii) bears very little relation to the tactical approaches of the non-Quins players in the England team; and (iii) is an absolute disaster for the blitz defence, which is weak in transition. Unsurprisingly, it has coincided with a sharp decline in England's results.

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