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Social media reacts as Welsh regions hit European nadir

Adam Beard (C), the Ospreys captain looks dejected (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

The gag doing the rounds this weekend was that Cardiff had defied to odds to become the first of the Welsh regions to secure a victory in Europe this season – and over the European champions Toulouse no less!

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Obviously, that ‘victory’ is off the back of an EPCR decision on Friday to award Cardiff a 28 – 0 walkover over the French giants. The odds on Cardiff coming away from Stade Ernest-Wallon with a win could at best be described as remote.

It’s been a dire campaign for the regions and impossible to hide from.

To date, no Welsh side has recorded a win on the ground. Leaving the paper win over Toulouse aside, the Ospreys, Cardiff and the Scarlets have totaled just four bonus points between them in the Heineken Champions Cup.

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It’s an abysmal total that even if they were treated as one team, would not be enough to qualify them for the 24 team competition’s round of 16.

Meanwhile, the Dragons have managed just one losing bonus point in three outings in the Challenge Cup.

Their collective points difference stands at minus 250. Together all four teams have scored 202 points, just four points more than Leinster’s individual points tally.

Doom and gloom around the Welsh regions is nothing new, but their bleak experience this year has left many in the Welsh rugby family exasperated and calling for change, although there’s no agreement on what such a change might look like.

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Former Wales centre Tom Shanklin struck a depressing note: “I’m struggling to see where the next crop of quality Wales internationals are going to come from.”

Andy Howell, former rugby correspondent for Walesonline and the Western Mail, posted: “Welsh regions largely have decent squads but seem to continually be undermined by devastating injury lists and keyboard warriors telling them they’re crap.”

Some are still pushing the idea of an Anglo-Welsh league as a potential savior, although there’s little evidence such a ploy would be a success. Politician Samuel Kurtz wrote that on the evidence of the Scarlets Bristol game, which was close for 45 minutes, such a competition would be ‘incredible’: “This Scarlets versus Bristol Bears game is reason enough for the Welsh regions to join the English Premiership. Anglo-Welsh league would be incredible.”

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Ex-Argus chief rugby writer Robin Dewey, made the point that there would be little in such a league for the English teams: “Ospreys following their West Wales rivals Scarlets in getting thumped by English opposition, trailing heavily against Sale. And some still say an Anglo-Welsh league is the best way forward for the regions. Why on earth would English teams want that?”

Some extremists seem to think the regions need to be got rid of completely, even if there is no viable alternative and a return to a Welsh Premiership style structure would see the playing pool stretched even further.

Many see the problem coming down to one of money. Welsh regional budgets are certainly significantly off the likes of the French giants and Japan’s corporate sides, although the gap between the regions and their fellow URC sides isn’t the chasm some like to make out.

Squidge Rugby launched a spirited defence of the regions’ player conveyor belt, suggesting talent wasn’t a problem for Welsh rugby, although he pointed out that the scoreline at the end of the Scarlets’ game painted it’s own grim picture, despite the aforementioned competitive display early doors from the Llanelli men.

“I think it says a lot that this is probably the most encouraging performance we’ve seen from the Scarlets under Dwayne Peel and they’ve conceded 52 points.”

The problem is clear and well described. The Welsh regions are currently struggling to be competitive. What the solution is, remains far more difficult to pin down.

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Tom 6 hours ago
Will Bristol's daredevil 'Bears-ball' deliver the trophy they crave?

Also a Bristol fan and echo your sentiments.


I love watching Bristol but their approach will only get them so far I think. Exeter played like this when they first got promoted to the prem and had intermittent success, it wasn't until they wised up and played a more balanced game that they became a consistently top side.


I really want Bristol to continue playing this brand of rugby and I don't mind them running it from under their posts but I don't think they need to do it every single time. They need to be just a little bit more selective about when and where on the pitch they play. Every game they put themselves under so much needless pressure by turning the ball over under their posts trying to do kamikaze moves when it's not required. By all means run it from your goal line if there is a chance for a counter attack, we all want to see Bristol running in 100m tries from under their posts but I think until they learn when to do it and when to be pragmatic, they are unlikely to win the premiership.


Defense has been a real positive from Bristol, they've shown a lot of improvement there... And I will say that I think this kamikaze strategy they employ is a very good one for a struggling side and could be employed by Newcastle. It's seems to have turned around Gloucester's fortunes. The big advantage is even if you don't have the biggest and best players, what you have is cohesion. This is why Scotland keep battering England. England have better individuals but they look muddled as a team, trying to play a mixed strategy under coaches who lack charisma, the team has no identity. Scotland come out and give it full throttle from 1-15 even if they struggle against the top sides, sides like England and Wales who lack that identity drown under the relentless will and synergy of the Scots. If Newcastle did the same they could really surprise some people, I know the weather is bad up there but it hasn't bothered the Scots. Bristol can learn from Scotland too, Pat is on to something when he says the following but Scotland don't play test matches like headless chickens. They still play with the same level of clarity and ambition Bristol do but they are much better at picking their moments. They needed to go back to this mad game to get their cohesion back after a couple of seasons struggling but I hope they get a bit wiser from matches like Leinster and La Rochelle.


“If there’s clarity on what you’re trying to do as a team you can win anything.”

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