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'Sorry, but it's reality': Wallabies assistant coach slams state of Super Rugby Pacific

Carter Gordon and Ardie Savea tussle in Super Rugby Pacific. (Photo by Quinn Rooney/Getty Images)

Wallabies assistant coach Pierre-Henry Broncan has slammed the state of Super Rugby as a key reason for Australia’s disappointing World Cup campaign.

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The lack of pressure and consequences in the reformed Super Rugby Pacific was a big reason why according to the former French professional who has decades of experience playing and coaching in France.

There is no threat of relegation in Super Rugby Pacific which means that teams can play with freedom, while eight of the 12 teams ultimately make the playoffs with many making the cut with losing records.

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Broncan believed that this lack of pressure doesn’t bode well for knock-out rugby at the Rugby World Cup.

“If you’re looking for a big difference between the Top 14, the European Cup and Super Rugby in Australia and New Zealand, it’s pressure,” he told reporters ahead of Australia’s pool game with Portugal.

“In France, the pressure is present in every match, because the question of relegation or qualification (for places in the final stages or in the European Cup) weighs heavily. This is very important for European teams.

“In Super Rugby there is no relegation, you just play to win the competition. Which is a very good thing, but it’s only between the New Zealand and Australian teams.

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“You will see the next World Cup matches, the quarter-finals, the semi-finals or the final, there will be enormous pressure on the pitch. Many matches will end in a very close score and a match will be won or lost in the last five or ten minutes.

“Today, our team is not ready for that. At half-time in the Wales game I was convinced we were going to win. Ten points [the payout between Australia and Wales] is nothing. But we started the second period by conceding a penalty, and it was over.

“We must be able to change in the future.”

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Super Rugby Pacific features 10 teams from New Zealand and Australia with two others representing the Pacific Islands following the split with South Africa.

The parity of the league is often lopsided with only the Brumbies putting up consistent wins over their New Zealand counterparts this season.

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Only the Brumbies finished with a winning record in 2023 at 10-4, with the Waratahs (6-8), Reds (5-9), Western Force (5-9), and Rebels (4-10) all failing to win half of their games.

“The Brumbies (Australian Super Rugby franchise) are a good example to follow because they have a very strong team capable of beating the New Zealand teams today.

“The other Australian teams found it very difficult to beat the New Zealand teams. Sorry, but it’s reality. We need to change that first.”

The four South African teams left for Europe in 2020 which Broncan believed has weakened the competition and given the northern hemisphere an advantage.

“Before Covid, with the South African and Japanese teams, the Jaguares in Argentina, it was a great competition,” he said.

“Today, I think that between Super Rugby and the national championship, we have to create an environment for the national team and train every week, every month together.

“When there was Super Rugby with the South African teams, the competition was very tough. Today, South African teams are playing in the European Cup and that is an advantage for the northern hemisphere.”

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Nigel 418 days ago

Australia need to focus more on their local players and competition and run a high performance unit,they pointing fingers in the wrong direction

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Forward pass 419 days ago

I think a world cup has been won by every SR country bar Arg. Seems to produce enough talent from my perspective. Those comps in the UK have produced 1 WC winner so is that proof of a superior comp? Nope!!!

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Henry 419 days ago

I agree with the French coach’s point. Nothing like relegation to focus teams. “Many matches will end in a very close score and a match will be won or lost in the last five or ten minutes.” He’s so right!!

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Willie 419 days ago

How does he reconcile Fiji's success with the poor standard of super rugby?
Another RA official pointing in the wrong direction.
Leaving the best players [too numerous to name],at home or in Japan [Rory Arnold] might be more pertinent reasons.

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JD Kiwi 419 days ago

Yes the South African teams were so good they failed to win it after 2010.

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Chiefs Mana 419 days ago

Development, competition for places and depth starts long before Super Rugby - a short term fix is to decrease amount of Aussie SR teams but we know where Aussie Rugby stand on that after being pitched many times.

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Pecos 419 days ago

True. Red's won in 2011 & Tahs won in 2014. Now Australian SR teams are a joke.

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BMac 419 days ago

agree, the competition has for last few years not prepared us at all against Northrtn teams and pressure as mentioned, we still struggle against rush defense and winning breakdowns in big matches and the results show that , Fans have been scathing about the 8 teams making playoffs, seriously its a joke top 4 teams go through to a semi final, home groumd advantage for top 2 teams i that, the final is a neutral venue, Promotion relegation for bottom 8 not a place in the quarters.

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BMac 419 days ago

Agree, the competition has for last few years not prepared us at all against Northrtn teams and pressure as mentioned, we still struggle against rush defense and winning breakdowns in big matches and the results show that , Fans have been scathing about the 8 teams making playoffs, seriously its a joke top 4 teams go through to a semi final, home groumd advantage for top 2 teams i that, the final is a neutral venue, Promotion relegation for bottom 8 not a place in the quarters.

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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