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Speculation growing about big England selection calls versus Fiji

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Speculation is growing that Steve Borthwick is set to transform the England backline by naming Marcus Smith to start at full-back in Sunday’s Rugby World Cup quarter-final, with skipper Owen Farrell also set to displace George Ford as the starting out-half.

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Bar the expected 71-0 rout of Chile, the English attack has been otherwise blunt during its four-game Pool D campaign at France 2023. Borthwick’s side was kept tryless in their Marseille opener versus Argentina, but the third-minute sending-off of Tom Curry kept a lid on criticism about their bluntness in that fixture.

However, they needed a fluke headed assist from Joe Marler in the 56th minute in Nice to break Japanese resistance after English supporters had been loudly booing the team just minutes earlier, while they required a 73rd-minute converted Danny Care try and a last-gasp tackle from the same player 75 seconds from time to secure the fortunate 18-17 win over Samoa last Saturday in Lille.

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The kicking game, an approach that England have built so much of their attack on, failed to fire against the Samoans after Borthwick picked Ford to partner Farrell in a starting 10/12 combination for the first time since March 2021.

The inclusion of Manu Tuilagi at No13 also meant that Borthwick was reprising the 10/12/13 Ford/Farrell/Tuilagi gambit last seen in March 2020 four months after it was outmanoeuvred by the Springboks in the 2019 World Cup final.

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Ford was hooked on 51 minutes last weekend in Lille and the arrival of Smith to play at full-back resulted in Farrell switching to No10, Freddie Steward moving to the wing, and Joe Marchant into centre where he was soon partnered by Ollie Lawrence, a 58th-minute replacement for Tuilagi.

Smith has started just once before as the England No15, producing a player of the match performance in the September 23 hammering of Chile, but he has impressed off the bench on a number of occasions in that position, most notably when England had to chase down Fiji seven weeks ago at Twickenham.

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England’s comeback was unsuccessful as they ultimately lost that Summer Nations Series game 22-30, but Smith scored one try and was pivotal in the creation of another finished in the corner by Marchant.

Naming Smith ahead of Steward would be a big call for Borthwick but so too would be naming Farrell at No10 and benching Ford, the player of the match in the opening wins over Argentina and Japan.

Last weekend’s performance ignited calls for Farrell not to be selected again at inside centre but rather than getting dropped, he is expected to move inside one channel with Ford the player who misses out.

England, who have based themselves for quarter-final week in Aix-en-Provence, will officially confirm their team to face Fiji at 1pm local time on Friday (12noon UK), with Borthwick set to discuss his selection at a media briefing starting an hour later.

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matt 404 days ago

Well the picks have been made but there’s another position that England could develop Smith at, wing.

Think Of the roaming influence that both Will Jordan and Mack Hansen have on their teams, with the lower pressure ability to join the line and find space. A player with similar ability as well is Cheslin Kolbe.

On the wing you could also hide him a bit defensively, although he’d have the dexterity to defend in space.

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Mark 405 days ago

Borthwick changes his team like most people change their underwear.
Front row, backrow, midfield and back 3.
He casts about like a blind man in a sand storm.
He clearly has no idea what his best team is, and expecting combinations to suddenly gel overnight as if by magic at international level is delusional.
England have gained a qtr final by default.
They are currently a very mediocre outfit.
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strachan 405 days ago

They are DS man lucky…Fiji should their discipline hold will win against a mediocre English outfit.

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Tris 405 days ago

Id like to think that at least I'd have an idea about the forwards, even if they are playing roulette with the backs. But apart from George and Itoji and Lawes I'm not sure who will start where.
I think England are probably the first team to get to a world cup QF and not know who their best starting player is in at least 10 positions.
Its incedible when you think about it really.

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Diarmid 405 days ago

Not really big calls given that the back line totally failed to function by picking a 10-12-12 combination against Samoa that hadn't worked since the last world cup. Picking Smith at fullback, a position he has started at once in his test career against Chile is going to push Fiji to waste a bit of time kicking to him in the first half but as soon as they realise that the guy can't tackle they'll just resort to running over the poor bloke. Smith is a small attacking fly half with no experience under the high ball and no idea how to read play defensively from fullback. Despite his total lack of pace, Steward was at least reasonable at reading where the ball might go next and had a knack of showing up in the right place at the right time.
Farrell doesn't have the pace or the attacking instinct to string together any kind of attacking play ball in hand that might one day see a fullback hitting the line at pace… disaster is looming.

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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