Springbok Marvin Orie joins Ospreys on loan

Look through the games v Ireland, France and the two NZ tour losses, and there is not one try scored in the same way as I'm describing here! Not one.

The system being run by El Abd is not the one that implemented by Jones. They are like chalk and cheese.

It's not the same at all but I recognize you cannot see it - and that's okay.

He's not much different to someone like Paddy, no. Could have had a lot more tests for Aus if he played from home but I think it's simply a case of those dynamics you refer to, he is simply more valuable to a different style game (club in this case) up north so he was proportionately more valued by them than other good Wallabies players that get targeted (ie he got offered too much money not to leave).

Doesn't undermind that he would have been over the 50 mark by now otherwise (which cna be said for a lot of good Aussie players of course).

I went back through the 6N highlights and sure enough in every English win I remembered seeing these exact holes on the inside, that are supposedly the fallout out of a Felix Jones system breaking down in the hands of some replacement. Every time the commentators mentioned England being targeted up the seam/around the ruck or whatever. Each game had a try scored on the inside of the blitz, no doubt it was a theme throughout all of their games. Will Jordan specifically says that Holland had design that move to target space he saw during their home series win.

Well I'm here to tell you they were the same holes in a Felix Jones system being built as well. This woe is now sentiment has got to stop. The game is on a high, these games have been fantastic! It is Englands attack that has seen their stocks increase this year, and no doubt that is what SB told him was the teams priority. Or it's simply science, with Englands elite players having worked towards a new player welfare and management system, as part of new partnership with the ERU, that's dictating what the players can and can't put their bodies through.

The only bit of truth in this article is that Felix is not there to work on fixing his defence. England threw away another good chance of winning in the weekend when they froze all enterprise under pressure when no longer playing attacking footy for the second half. That mindset helped (or not helped if you like) of course by all this knee jerk, red brained criticism.

The clue is prob in the phrase

"Probably would have played 60-70 tests by now had he stayed in SR but tbh NH rugby is far more suitable for him."

He started in SR but the Waratahs mismanaged him so he had to go to Europe to reach his potential. A bit like Meafou.

I don't think SR really appreciates or understands this type of second row and therefore does not know how to develop them. That's the nub of it.

It's a fully professional game so stop talking tripe.