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Springboks fans float conspiracy theory around final French try

Wayne Barnes (Referee) and Bongi Mbonambi of South Africa during the 2022 Castle Lager Outgoing Tour match between France and South Africa at Orange Velodrome on November 12, 2022 in Marseille, France. (Photo by Clement Mahoudeau/Gallo Images/Getty Images)

Springboks fans are floating a conspiracy theory around France’s final try in their dramatic Autumn Nations Series victory over South Africa in Stade Velodrome in Marseille.

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Fabien Galthie’s men ran out 30-26 winners in a match full of incident, with referee Wayne Barnes handing out a red card apiece in a busy night for the English official.

Yet it was the final French try that has really upset a section of South African rugby fans. Rookie prop Sipili Falatea squeezed over in the 76th minute, with some arguing that there was more than one movement from the foward in doing so.

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Barnes was confident that the try was good, appearing to award it on the spot. It underwent a TMO review none-the-less as France prepared to take the conversion, at which point things got a little weird.

Barnes, who was reffing his 101st Test, lost communication with the TMO for the course of the review. At the end of the issue, Barnes could be heard saying: “Don’t ever do that again”.

Some fans are now suggesting that the French broadcaster had played some unknown role in the failure of the comms.

SA journalist Brendan Nel wrote: “Convenient losing comms with the tmo. Strange.”

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Another account wrote: “Wayne Barnes awarded a double movement try and I think they had to pretend like the communication was lost with the TMO.”

“Clearly ball was placed and the push from french support players took the man and ball over the line. Never a try! TMO very conveniently was off comms and could not be heard. But from the sidelines Barnes gets a message try is good bit still no comms from TMO,” wrote another.

How much scrutiny the theory would hold up to appears unclear, not least given the TMO was about to rule the try good.

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Johann 769 days ago

Refs are human and will make mistakes. I do think they can do better with real time intervention by TMOs. The NFL seems to do so much better, but they also have bloopers. (And, yes, Rassie is unfortunately fast becoming the loathsome Trump of rugby!)

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sean 770 days ago

I’m sorry but the French rugby union has always been surrounded with corruption at the highest level how could one think they couldn’t intervene over something like cutting comms.. their head of World Cup has lost his job the police raided the French rugby union offices this week and they stole a World Cup.. why is this even up for debate? Possibly because of the destain towards Rassie a behaviour.. doesn’t change the facts

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BOBO 772 days ago

Only 3 things in life are certain: Death, Taxes, and The Boks whingeing about the referee when they lose

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Northandsouth 772 days ago

I think the try was legal. His knees were off the ground before the second push. Also lets remember that the TMO who gave the all clear was not French. As a neutral though the dubious coverage leaves a bad taste. I was struck by how the debatable decision that went SA's way about the penalty for tackled player not releasing was replayed over and over, but the debatable forward pass call on WLR that went France's way wasn't shown once. Every country tends to highlight things that go against them, but they were going further by actively suppressing legitimate coverage, which felt like crossing a line. We want to be proud of rugby as the sport that is fierce but has integrity, and the game playing makes it hard to be able to say that about those in charge of the coverage. I hope with the world cup next year they are as interested in showing the world they are people of integrity as they are in getting the W.

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Jason 773 days ago

The yellow card was probably the bigger call. France get away with 3 in their red-zone, then bang, one penalty in SA’s red zone and they’re down to 13.

But agree, the try should also have been disallowed also.

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JW 3 hours ago
Razor's 2024 All Blacks Christmas wish list

Razor isn't a grinch to ask for two wins against SA, and if he was to ask for two, those would be meaningless if the record is still lost. After SA come to Eden Park the game he'll most ask to be gift wrapped is Eden Park's Bledisloe Cup.


He's also already got Mo'unga I'd say, what he'd be asking of Robinson (or whoever takes over) is that the rules are bent to all his inclusion without first representing Canterbury. Razor will need a lot of good will spirit heading his own way if he selects Mo'unga to start in July against France.

When a Dupont-less, understrength B-team French outfit heads over to Aotearoa in July for a highly anticipated series down under, nothing less than a 3-0 sweep will suffice for the All Blacks. 

You aren't very good at sneaking a look at what's in the Xmas hamper around you Henry? If Toulouse somehow fluff one of their knockout games they will be able to tour (only players in the Final are excluded) and it will basically be Dupont's Toulouse versus all of New Zealand in July. They will be VERY hard to beat.


The old Christmas excitement gets the best of everybody. Personally I think Razor would be saving up backline wish for some creativity and spark till next Xmas. Mostly he'll wanting to stay in the good books and for fans to pay attention next year.

It seems like the idea of Ardie Savea moving to openside flanker is no longer on the table, and World Breakthrough 15’s Player of the Year Wallace Sititi seems to have locked down the number six jersey.

Ardie was selected as an openside flanker against France, two games ago. Dalton Papali'i is the incumbent though and while the jersey number is largely irrelevant, he might still want somebody to stand out in the 6 jersey next year.


It would be my own wish that Ardie is asked to be selected at 7 again, and play like a 7, though. I really hope that no one stands out in the 6 jersey for Razor though, so he's forced to think creatviely and move Scott Barrett there lol

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