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Springboks to keep using intriguing good cop, bad cop referee tactic versus the Lions

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New South Africa head coach Jacques Nienaber has explained the logic behind his team’s use of a good cop, bad cop routine when it comes to dealing with referees after Nic Berry (Australia), Ben O’Keeffe (New Zealand) and Mathieu Raynal (France) were appointed to officiate the upcoming Test matches between the Springboks and the Lions.

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At the 2019 World Cup in Japan, where South Africa triumphed with Rassie Erasmus doubling up as the head coach and director of rugby, the Springboks adopted a strategy of using Duane Vermeulen as bad cop and skipper Siya Kolisi as a good cop when it came to the team’s dealings with referees.

New head coach Nienaber, who has stepped up from his Springboks defence coach role ahead of the Lions, insisted there was nothing manipulative about the tactic, claiming it wasn’t restricted for use in relationships with referees but to also wield influence on teammates. 

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Explaining the introduction of the bad cop role that the Springboks will keep using against the Lions, Nienaber said: “In South African culture, I’m an Afrikaans guy coming from Bloemfontein and it isn’t natural for me to question authority. That was the common thing on a Sunday that your dad would tell you, ‘Listen, you need to be seen, not heard. You don’t open your mouth. There is a hierarchy’. 

“So, for us Afrikaans guys to talk to a referee is weird, he is in a position of authority. So what we did with good cop, bad cop, we said, ‘Let’s put a guy in a role. If I am the bad cop I am the guy who is going to question’ and that was what we did’. 

“So you almost put on a suit, I’m going to be the bad cop or the encourager for today. Guys almost put on a suit, you’re an actor, you play a role. If your role is to be a bad cop, if things at the breakdown are not going well, you ask, you must find a solution. That is what a bad cop does. A good cop, it’s not only to a referee, it’s to the player. A good cop is when someone does a great thing, a good tackle and you’re the guy that encourages him, says well done, so it’s not just the referee. 

“I hope it makes sense… it’s not our style to ask a question or to tell your buddy, listen I am a bad cop of the breakdown, I must make sure the breakdown gets run today in the manner that we want to run it. It’s almost a good cop, bad cop and your question in terms of the referees (and using this tactic), no it won’t change. 

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“We know that the referees are there to make sure the game is safe, we must work with them in creating a safe spectacle. Rugby is a game of contests, that is why we love rugby. There are probably 600 contests in a game and that is the beauty of it and that guy has to officiate on every single contest. 

“We know we have to be accurate there from a safety point of view and from delivering a product. You want to go for a poach and you want to be legal because if you get the turnover that is the golden seconds where there is unstructured defence and you can actually find some space. 

“We will always operate like that… every single coach will look at trends on the referees. Certain referees have certain trends and to be honest, we haven’t even started with that, we haven’t even looked at their trends but we will like Warren (Gatland) and the Lions will do as well.”

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JPM 1 hour ago
Forget Ireland, the All Blacks face the real alpha of Europe next

Unfortunately you don't know anything about French rugby, coaches and players but still making a lot of assumptions and judgements to push your prefabricated and simplistic point of view that Dupont is manipulating everything and is a bad guy. I am not a NZ rugby specialist and wouldn't dare make such theories about what is going on within the ABs team. Therefore my advice to you is to do like Dupont and stay humble when you don't know all the background of the issues !!!


Firstly if you knew a bit of Galthié, he is not the type of coach who is going to ask advice to his players and even his captain about team selection. He is as stubborn as you...


Second Ramos has played a lot of times as 10 with Toulouse and therefore Dupont (in particular when Ntamack is injured and unfortunately it has often happened recently and for long periods). He even played 10 during the last 3 games of the 2024 6N and this was far better performance than the first two games with Jalibert as 10.


Thirdly Jalibert lacked of respect to a La Rochelle player so your theory is once again out.


Fourth as I explained to you Galthié went for a 6-2 bench and Jalibert can only play 10 which doesn't fit that plan. Furthermore as 15 Buros is better under high balls than Ramos and everybody is prepared for a tactical kicking game.


So you can blame Galthié for a lot of things (as you clearly enjoy doing at the end of your post and you should be very happy as an AB fan) but certainly not Dupont. Sorry once more for your conspiracy theory.


And don't worry about potential disharmony in the French team; they are excellent mates around their captain. Jalibert is well known in the French rugby circles to have not a strong character (and we saw that in the WC quarter finals as he is very nervous in any decisive international game unlike Ntamack and Ramos as for his late penalty kick vs England this year).


In conclusion enjoy the game tmrw night. It is good that the ABs are very upset; we should watch a great game of rugby. I hope for running rugby and not too much kicking. With 5 key players injured on our side (Ntamack, Baille, Atonio, Cros and Penaud) and 2 on your side I and various French fans see you as favourites. I obviously hope for another result.


If you are interested you can read a good article in the Guardian on the subject of France-NZ games.

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KB 1 hour ago
The 'one difference' between Boks and the back-to-back All Blacks

Consistency hasnt been there they have many great players SA were also not unbeaten in the 2023 WC - NZ were in 2015 WC McCaw and Carter Nonu and Smith - SA did not have those Marque players in those postions in 2019 or 2023 - I wouldnt rank them ahead of the 20I5 ABs - They clocked up 60 points against France in the QF - Furthermore I do not believe for one moment SA won 2023 fairly no way - they were so favoured it became obvious that behind the scenes SA the nation bought the title - Their last 3 matches were won by a solitary point there were many contentious decisions that went their way that it became obvious it wasnt coincidence - Sport has been hijacked by a satanic cult just as is Politics

Some players coaches officials and sponsors are involved - they know who they are - its called Freemasonry - any sport that allows betting is corrupt - its not all about money either for these parasites its also about control - Lots of American NFL players have spoken openly about games being scripted - Football is also rigged Referees have been caught on film showing freemason hand signs - The 95 RWC final ranks as the highest and most obvious attempt at cheating There was no way SA were going to allow NZ to gate crash Nelson Mandelas reunification party - NZ were so good they had to posion almost the entire team to get a 3 point win - a Hollywood Movie ( theres your Red Flag ) was made about SAs triumph called Invictus


William Henley wrote a poem called Invictus


It starts


Out of the night that covers me BLACK ( All Blacks ) as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever GODS maybe for my unconquerable Soul ...( Olan says INVICTUS is an evil Malevolent entity who corrupted the Titans ... this is Mandelas double meaning speech ( hes a fraud ) - of thanks for helping overcome SA's adversary NZ - There is only ONE true God Yahuah - Only a false god would be complicit in Cheating Corruption and Harming others to win a RWC for a sick and sinful Nation ) the poem ends with


I am the CAPTAIN of my soul


SA will forever bear the stain of guilt and disgrace over their involvement in poisoning the ABs a day before the 95 RWC Final

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CO 2 hours ago
Forget Ireland, the All Blacks face the real alpha of Europe next

I cannot believe that you don't think the French rugby team coach and captain are not discussing putting Jalibert on the bench in favour of Duponts club teammate that doesn't even play at 10.


This is a terrible, massive insult to a 10 and I'm sure Dupont would also be very enraged if benched for a player that doesn't even play halfback.


A good captain would've insisted to the coach that it was an idea of madness and either select Jalibert or replace him with another 10 if you want him to be reserve.


Jalibert may not be the world's finest tacklers but that's often not a tens main strength that the loose forwards and second five cover. An intercept pass is never great but they happen.


When any player is playing for his club then it's club first, respect doesn't need to be shown to opposition players simply because they're internationals.


Who exactly are you claiming Jalibert hasn't respected? If it's Toulouse international players then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this bench demotion out.


The outcome of selecting Jalibert to the bench and he then throwing his croissants out the window of the team bus immediately prior to playing the Allblacks is a disaster that will be team disharmony as any team mates of Jalibert are in a state of anger and revolt so a performance that will be sub optimal against a team that is thirsting for revenge against France.


I don't know about you but the Allblacks are very upset they've lost twice in a row to France and want to put out a statement performance so this preparation by Galthie of creating havoc looks to me like a coach that is clueless.

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