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Stephen Perofeta on what he thought of his 50-second All Blacks debut

Stephen Perofeta of New Zealand runs with the ball during the international test match between Japan and New Zealand All Blacks at National Stadium on October 29, 2022 in Tokyo, Japan. (Photo by Kenta Harada/Getty Images)

Stephen Perofeta was one of eight All Blacks debutants in 2022 but his memorable experience lasted just 50 seconds after being substituted into the Test in the dying stages against Argentina in Christchurch.

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The decision to hand Perofeta a debut was criticised in some corners, with many questioning the logic behind putting him into the action without a lot of time to be involved.

The All Blacks were down 25-18, which remained the full-time score, as Los Pumas pulled off a historic first win on New Zealand soil.

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The Blues playmaker has reflected on the night speaking on the You Decide Podcast and shared his philosophical outlook on his debut which he enjoyed and is using it as motivation.

“In my mind, I didn’t want to feed it doubt,” Perofeta explained on the You Decide Podcast.

“I just wanted to get out there and be free. That’s when I’m enjoying it, that’s when I’m at my best.

“As soon as I’m like ‘don’t do this’, that little voice in your head telling you, ‘you can’t’, that’s when I crumble.

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“So for me, yeah it was 50 seconds but I got out there and just tried to enjoy every second.

“If I got longer, or if I didn’t even get on, I was still going to enjoy every moment.”

Perofeta explained that the emotion behind becoming an All Black was something that drives him for more.

The 50 seconds on the field was only one part of the equation, with the preparation in the lead-up as part of the gameday 23 all part of the debut experience.

“The lead-up for it was huge too,” he explained.

“It was different from every other week because prior to when I got named, I was training to prepare them, because I wasn’t getting picked.

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“My job was to do the moves so that they are prepared for what the opposition are going to bring.

“But this week was different because I was actually in there. I had to know all our roles, all our stuff.

“To actually run out onto that field in front of a packed crowd, sing the national anthem for the first time. I had to close my eyes because I was going to cry, and just breathe.

“But that 50 seconds, I look at things to take something from it.

“Yeah it was 50 seconds but it is going to keep the flame burning, you know it is going to keep it going.

“Because I want more. It doesn’t finish there.”

Perofeta won two more caps in 2022, his first start as an All Black at fullback against Japan in a 38-31 win and he featured in another bench cameo against Scotland at Murrayfield on the end of year tour.

The 26-year-old didn’t feature in 2023 as the All Blacks narrowed the squad down for the Rugby World Cup, but the first five has every chance to earn more caps under new head coach Scott Robertson.

Perofeta played under the former Crusaders coach when he was in charge of the New Zealand U20 in 2016.

With Richie Mo’unga departing for Japan and Beauden Barrett yet to confirm a new NZR contract, competition is open for the All Blacks’ first five role heading into 2024.

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JW 2 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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