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Steve Diamond gives wonderfully blunt assessment of England's 'Curry at 8' experiment

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Eddie Jones is viewing Tom Curry as ‘No8 project’ for England, but Sale boss Steve Diamond will not be playing the back row in that position for the ambitious Gallagher Premiership club.

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With Mark Wilson and Saracens’ Billy Vunipola unavailable, Jones controversially used Curry at No8 in the opening Six Nations loss to France last Sunday and he looks certain to continue with what many believe is an unnecessary experiment in next Saturday’s Calcutta Cup clash with Scotland at Murrayfield.

Jones has ignored viable alternatives at No8 in Harlequins’ Alex Dombrandt, Bristol’s Nathan Hughes and Exeter’s Sam Simmonds and is certain Curry can handle the different role.

However, Sale boss Diamond, who is preparing his team Friday night’s Premiership Cup semi-final at home to Saracens that will feature fit-again Wilson following knee surgery, doesn’t see any benefit for the Manchester-based club in giving Curry game time at No8 in a side captained by Jono Ross, their regular No8.

Diamond told RugbyPass: “I haven’t had any conversation with Eddie about Tom playing No8 and he won’t play at No8 for us. 

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“Tom has a very good skills set but his best position is six or seven… but you have to remember I’m a mere minnow in the world of coaching. I have only seen this guy playing six or seven for the last three years! 

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“The irony of it is this is that if your team gets to the final of a World Cup and the best player in that team is Tom Curry – for example – then why would you play him out of position?

“However, I always back the national coach and fair play to Eddie, he will see him in a couple of games and if it doesn’t work out he will revert him back to his best position.”

Turning to matters Sale, while Diamond is pleased that Wilson’s injury has now come right, it won’t be until the February 21 league game versus Leicester that South African World Cup winners Lood de Jager and Faf de Klerk come into selection contention. 

De Jager has been recovering from the shoulder injury suffered in the World Cup final while de Klerk has been rehabilitating a knee ligament injury he collected on club duty this season.

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“Mark Wilson will be on the bench against Saracens for the semi-final and is ready for action having trained really well,” explained Diamond. 

“He will be covering all the back row positions looking after Ben Curry, Jono Ross and Dan du Preez’s positions. With Lood and Faf, we are looking at them being ready for Leicester at home.

“We have these two big games with Saracens – the semi-final and then at their place in the league – and the statistics show we have played them 17 times and beaten them only three times. 

“I don’t care who they have missing because they have a system and a structure that works. In our quest to get to where we want to be as a club then we need to try our best in all competitions.”

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Tom 53 minutes ago
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I'm not sure about the Earl incident. I recall him missing an important tackle but he's certainly a quick flanker. SB has him cover centre when doing 6-2, fortunately we've never had to see how that would play out.


I'm not getting on board I'm afraid. The fact that England are scoring tries and being competitive despite being so amazingly disorganised and managing to lose every match is even more frustrating. The players front up and make a good account of themselves physically but the defence since Felix Jones is so much less organised. Players are flying out the line all over the place, there is no cohesion at all... And the attack... Literally it's just Marcus Smith.. and a bit of Feyi Waboso. Almost every player in the backline has done nothing offensively because the structure just isn't there for it, there's nothing creative or innovative to challenge the defense. The last 20 mins against the Boks it was just runners on crash ball off the 9, over and over getting smashed behind the gainline and turned over. These players are capable of doing much better.


We did score tries under Eddie but the backs didn't create anything. It worked well for a while but when we no longer had a big pack with the likes of Haskell and the Vunipolas playing well, it stopped working very rapidly. Once we started losing the gainline and couldn't exert so much pressure through bullying, they suddenly all looked clueless and we finished 5th in consecutive six nations.


I'd love to be on board, I've watched every game for the last 15 years and what I see is just super frustrating. It's groundhog day. The same mistakes over and over and no sign of progress. They've pushed some good sides close in this series but there is no acknowledgement of the issues, they keep saying how close they are and they're a growing team etc... he's been in charge for 2 years and has hundreds of caps in the side. This will end poorly, he's not the right guy, but thank you for trying.

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