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Steve Hansen's advice to make the Wallabies and Rugby Australia more competitive

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Former All Blacks coach Steve Hansen believes Rugby Australia should take notes from the success of New Zealand Rugby’s structure in order to help them become “more competitive” at the international level.

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In recent discussions around next year’s Super Rugby structure, RA have made clear they want to feature all five of their franchises rather than accept NZR’s proposal of having two to four Australian teams along with a new Pacific Island team.

But speaking on Gold AM’s The Country Sport Breakfast this morning, Hansen said reducing the number of teams would do good for Australian rugby.

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“You can understand why they want all their teams because they want to grow the game in Australia and that’s the right thing for them to do, but I believe that at international level, they’ve suffered because they’ve had all those teams in Super Rugby,” Hansen said.

“I think if they just went down to three at Super Rugby and kept the same competitions they’ve just had, they’d be a lot stronger, they’d win more, and come international season, be in better shape mentally and be a lot more competitive.

“One of the things I think is a strength in New Zealand Rugby is we’ve gone from Mitre 10 to a higher level and not everyone can go there so if you want to get there you’ve got to improve – if you want to stay there, you’ve got to keep improving and there’s nothing like that happening in Australia.”

Hansen said he enjoyed watching Super Rugby Aotearoa, and although agreeing there were benefits to including overseas teams again, felt this year’s competition was of a high standard.

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“There was some great rugby played and it is a hell of an intense competition,” he said. “The thing I liked from a player point of view is they didn’t have to travel all around the world to play in it so I thought the rugby was great, brought out some new talent.

“Right across the board each team you could go into and see the talent.”

Meanwhile, RA has reportedly set NZR a deadline to agree to a Super Rugby competition from 2021.

RA is also reportedly interested in a ‘Super 8’ competition next year, featuring two club sides from Australia, New Zealand and South Africa, along with one from South America and Japan.

It is part of a new content package the governing body is trying to entice broadcasters with, and save their flailing national game which struggles when compared to other winter sport codes.

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AllyOz 22 hours ago
Does the next Wallabies coach have to be an Australian?

I will preface this comment by saying that I hope Joe Schmidt continues for as long as he can as I think he has done a tremendous job to date. He has, in some ways, made the job a little harder for himself by initially relying on domestic based players and never really going over the top with OS based players even when he relaxed his policy a little more. I really enjoy how the team are playing at the moment.


I think Les Kiss, because (1) he has a bit more international experience, (2) has previously coached with Schmidt and in the same setup as Schmidt, might provide the smoothest transition, though I am not sure that this necessarily needs to be the case.


I would say one thing though about OS versus local coaches. I have a preference for local coaches but not for the reason that people might suppose (certainly not for the reason OJohn will have opined - I haven't read all the way down but I think I can guess it).


Australia has produced coaches of international standing who have won World Cups and major trophies. Bob Dwyer, Rod Macqueen, Alan Jones, Michael Cheika and Eddie Jones. I would add John Connolly - though he never got the international success he was highly successful with Queensland against quality NZ opposition and I think you could argue, never really got the run at international level that others did (OJohn might agree with that bit). Some of those are controversial but they all achieved high level results. You can add to that a number of assistants who worked OS at a high level.


But what the lack of a clear Australian coach suggests to me is that we are no longer producing coaches of international quality through our systems. We have had some overseas based coaches in our system like Thorn and Wessels and Cron (though I would suggest Thorn was a unique case who played for Australia in one code and NZ in the other and saw himself as a both a NZer and a Queenslander having arrived here at around age 12). Cron was developed in the Australian system anyway, so I don't have a problem with where he was born.


But my point is that we used to have systems in Australia that produced world class coaches. The systems developed by Dick Marks, which adopted and adapted some of the best coaching training approaches at the time from around the world (Wales particularly) but focussed on training Australian coaches with the best available methods, in my mind (as someone who grew up and began coaching late in that era) was a key part of what produced the highly skilled players that we produced at the time and also that produced those world class coaches. I think it was slipping already by the time I did my Level II certificate in 2002 and I think Eddie Jones influence and the priorities of the executive, particularly John O'Neill, might have been the beginning of the end. But if we have good coaching development programmes at school and junior level that will feed through to representative level then we will have


I think this is the missing ingredient that both ourselves and, ironically, Wales (who gave us the bones of our coaching system that became world leading), is a poor coaching development system. Fix that and you start getting players developing basic skills better and earlier in their careers and this feeds through all the way through the system and it also means that, when coaching positions at all levels come up, there are people of quality to fill them, who feed through the system all the way to the top. We could be exporting more coaches to Japan and England and France and the UK and the USA, as we have done a bit in the past.


A lack of a third tier between SR and Club rugby might block this a little - but I am not sure that this alone is the reason - it does give people some opportunity though to be noticed and play a key role in developing that next generation of players coming through. And we have never been able to make the cost sustainable.


I don't think it matters that we have an OS coach as our head coach at the moment but I think it does tell us something about overall rugby ecosystem that, when a coaching appointment comes up, we don't have 3 or 4 high quality options ready to take over. The failure of our coaching development pathway is a key missing ingredient for me and one of the reasons our systems are failing.

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