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Stuart Lancaster's very good reason to ignore hype about Leinster going entire 32-game season unbeaten

Stuart Lancaster has flourished since taking his coaching role with Leinster. (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

Stuart Lancaster was spot on jinking his way clear of the hype. There was the former England boss on the first Monday of 2020 being quizzed if Leinster can sweep all before them and remain unbeaten this season. Madness.

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Fourteen matches might have been already won on the bounce since the curtain was raised on September 28, but there is a heck of a long road still to travel before trophies are handed out.

A possible 13 matches remain in the Guinness PRO14. Another five in the Heineken Champions Cup, starting Sunday when Lyon pitch up at the Dublin RDS. No wonder Lancaster wasn’t losing any sleep about the notion of them finishing it out as invincibles. There is way too much rugby to be played yet.  

“No, no. It’s not something that I think any team would ever go and be that arrogant that you say we are going to go through the season unbeaten when you know the games that you have got to come around the corner,” he deflected the other day to Irish media.

Rightly so. As much as people are salivating over the momentum Leo Cullen’s squad have generated in registering ten wins in succession in the league and clinching their European pool with four straight triumphs in that tournament, their express train-like start to the season isn’t even the best in their club’s history.

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RugbyPass went behind the scenes when Leinster won the 2018 Guinness PRO14 final in Dublin 

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Way back in 2001/02, when the Celtic League first came into being, a Leinster side under Matt Williams galloped all the way through to 15 successive victories. 

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At a time when the league only required a half-season to complete, they had become the inaugural winners of that tournament, defeating Munster in a rip-roaring December showpiece at the old Lansdowne Road. But the hype that they would go on and seamlessly double up was crushed at precisely this same juncture of the European season the class of 2019/20 are now ready to embrace.

Logistics did for them back in the day. Inclement weather twice cancelled their round five match at Newcastle, a fixture that eventually went ahead at a deserted Headingley in Leeds on a Tuesday night. A fraught 17-15 win was secured in front of a paltry 1,146 attendance and rather than head back to Dublin, with preparation time now in short supply they instead went direct from England to France where they dramatically imploded.

 

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Toulouse trounced them 43-7, leaving them with an away quarter-final at Leicester a fortnight later and not a home game in Dublin. They were duly eliminated and while 18 years have since passed, the abrupt way that 15-match winning streak was shattered remains a sharp reminder that things don’t always run smoothly in rugby, even when it looks like you are at the top of your game.

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Leinster have clearly been ahead of the curve so far this term in so many ways. Whereas the league leaders in England and France – Exeter and Bordeaux – have each lost twice in the respective Gallagher Premiership and Top 14 competitions, Leinster have been supreme in marrying the demands of the PRO14 with their European ambitions in a World Cup season. 

Fifty players have been utilised in negotiating their schedule, 43 as match starters, but they know well there is still work to be done even though they are way ahead of so many past campaigns. 

Starting brightly has traditionally been a fraught Leinster problem. In ten of the 18 seasons since that 2001/02 benchmark, they were beaten in the first match of the season so there was never much of a chance to reprise that type of an all-conquering run. 

Even in their majestic double-winning season of 2017/18, they were picked off in just their fourth outing that term, losing down at Cheetahs in the league, and while they can now take great pride in already being qualified for this season’s European quarter-finals, they can’t really take their eye off the wheel either.

It was during the Williams era that Leinster memorably came up with DNFUJ, a ‘Do Not F*** Up January’ acronym that used to adorn their dressing room walls. 

Its importance hasn’t lessened in any way in the interim, Lancaster posting a reminder the other day about how an unexpected round six draw at Castres in 2017 saw them tumble from No1 to No4 in the knockout stage rankings. 

That failing cost them home semi-final advantage and resulted in them being beaten by Clermont in Lyon, the city whose team are now ironically Dublin-bound this weekend.

That was the type of harsh lesson which is keeping soarway Leinster honest, ensuring talk about an unbeaten season just doesn’t merit being entertained in any way just yet.  

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JW 32 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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