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'That gap was massive': Where Japan needs to make up ground on NZ and Australia

Kazuki Himeno. (Photo by The Asahi Shimbun via Getty Images)

Cast your eyes through last year’s All Blacks and Wallabies squad and while there are many players entering the twilight of their careers, you’ll see plenty of young players in their early 20s who are already making the step up to test rugby.

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Men like Ethan de Groot, Josh Lord, Tupou Vaa’i, Hoskins Sotutu and Quinn Tupaea are all still 23 years or under while the Wallabies called upon talents such as Angus Bell, Rob Valetini, Tate McDermott, Noah Lolesio, Len Ikitau, Hunter Paisami and Jordan Petaia who are of a similar age. In fact, the All Blacks and Wallabies selected 14 players each who would still be eligible for an Under 25s competition, if such a thing existed. With a few exceptions, those men have also all had ample opportunities to prove their talents at Super Rugby level and, in some cases, are well into their international careers.

In contrast, consider Japan’s national squad from last year’s Autumn Nations Series where the Brave Blossoms fell to defeats at the hands of Australia, Ireland and Scotland. While 10 players amongst the squad are still 25 or under, the bulk of those men were into their first campaign in 2022 and have only recently started playing professional rugby.

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Because unlike in New Zealand and Australia, the vast majority of Japan’s youth prospects aren’t thrust straight into a professional side. In Japan, education comes first and young players, regardless of their talents, tend to head to university full-time, with rugby just a side-gig during their early 20s. That means while the likes of Noah Lolesio and Will Jordan have been hitting the paddock for the Brumbies and Crusaders, their counterparts in Japan have been hitting the books.

Kazuki Himeno, one of the stars of the 2019 Rugby World Cup in Japan, followed that very same path, completing his studies at the prestigious Teikyo University before making his professional rugby debut for Toyota Verblitz when he turned 22.

Four years later – and still in the formative years of his professional career – Himeno headed to New Zealand for a season of Super Rugby with the Highlanders and suddenly found himself playing alongside and against a slew of younger players who were at a similar stage in their rugby development.

“When I went to the Highlanders, I was 26. Playing rugby at 26 in Japan is considered quite young still. When I went to New Zealand, I found out 26 is not so young,” Himeno, speaking via a translator, told media this week.

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“That really helped me understand and realise the depth of players in New Zealand where players actually had the opportunity to be successful in the rugby industry when they’re 19 to 20. Because in Japan, ultimately after you graduate uni, you’re about 22 and that’s when you actually start your career as a rugby player. So I felt that gap was massive, it’s really big.

“For the Kiwis to be able to play a high-level standard of rugby when they’re 19 to 20, that’s a gap that we can’t quite [make up between] New Zealand and Japan.”

While Japan’s system is excellent at preparing players for life after rugby, it’s one which won’t necessarily fast-track top young talent into the professional systems where they can develop into top-tier players.

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It can also throw out unusual situations for coaches in Japan’s Rugby League One competition.

“It’s definitely a very different beast over here,” said Verblitz head coach Simon Cron, who is heading to the Western Force at the end of the season.

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“Even when you’re looking at things like recruitment of your Japanese players, the recruitment you do, they might be second-year university so you don’t see them for another two years minimum until they finish. Even while I’ve been here, the recruitment has come from the coaches previous to you being here and that’s quite complicated because the coach who was here previously was South African and the team didn’t pass the ball that much, so you’re looking at a different type of player. And some of the players we’ve recruited will come after I’ve gone.

“So it’s definitely a different system and it’s been ingrained here for quite a long time. And I think that the university qualification’s really important but I see potentially it being an area that will evolve over the coming two, three years as professionalism continues to grow.”

While young players in New Zealand and Australia are often encouraged to study or undertake external training while in their formative years of professional rugby, it’s in addition to representing their Super Rugby clubs and means that players will rarely finish up their careers without having something else in the bag for the future, but they’ll be able to get over a decade of professional rugby under their belts, injuries permitting. When they hit their physical peaks, they’re often at their mental rugby peak also, whereas those peaks might not be quite so well aligned in Japan.

To Himeno’s credit, however, his relative lack of experience didn’t affect his performances on the field for the Highlanders with the Brave Blossoms representative one of the top players in last year’s Super Rugby competition.

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GrahamVF 24 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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