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'That was a scary process... knowing you could be cut at any point'

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Hand on heart, the future of international rugby is in a good place just now judging by the array of entertaining personalities that RugbyPass has encountered these past few weeks at the Junior World Championship in South Africa. Given that the pandemic lockdown would have hit these kids hard at a crucial mid-to-late-teens stage of their personal development, the end product hasn’t been blunted.

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As characters from a myriad of different backgrounds from around the globe, they have made for a colourful bunch with interesting stories to tell rather than dull introverts who could have gone in on themselves due to the way-of-life restrictions of recent years.

Charlie Bracken definitely falls into this effervescent category. Here was yet another bubbly young man with a passion for rugby who eloquently said his piece when we sat with him in the downtown Cape Town hotel that England are occupying for the duration of a campaign that now has them knocking at heaven’s door – taking on France in Athlone on Sunday with a place in the U20s World Cup final at stake.

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It’s quite an achievement. Alarm bells rang pre-tournament about a squad that finished the recent Six Nations with a thud, losing twice in March when it most mattered after a three-game winning streak in February.

They then generated more of the wrong kind of headlines when ambushed by Georgia to share a two-match series in Tbilisi just weeks before flying to the southern hemisphere, but those lessons appear to have been lapped up by the Bracken class of 2023 gauging by their defiance in recent weeks.

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One win and two draws mightn’t look all that impressive on paper, but England exhibited guts to secure their invaluable stalemates versus Ireland and Australia, contests they would have lost but for a gritty determination to cling onto what they had. True, it initially left them bewildered last Tuesday in Paarl when the final whistle blew versus the Junior Wallabies to confirm a 22-all draw.

The fear was that the late concession of an unconverted try would count against them in the semi-final qualification race, but it ultimately didn’t once New Zealand’s match day three result filtered in from Stellenbosch to leave the English through to the knockouts as the fourth-ranked team. Cue relief and an apt reward for the heavy shift put in by Mark Mapletoft’s squad.

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“It’s an amazing tournament,” enthused Bracken, a try-scorer against the Wallabies and the eldest son of Kyran, the 2003 Rugby World Cup winner with England in Sydney. “We prepped really well and are all hungry for the games against these fantastic oppositions. We have come a long way and it is a very professional environment led by the coaches.

“All of them are doing a great job steering us in the right direction and then the captain, Lewis Chessum, is really driving us. The (34-all) game against Ireland really showed the fight we have in us, that we are not a side to be underestimated. All the boys have worked really hard.”

Camaraderie has also worked wonders. “Craig Wright is a very funny character, he brings a lot of life into the squad. You have also got Lewis – although he is the leader, he is a funny bloke as well and to be fair there is a range of comedians in the squad, but they know when to switch on.

“It’s a great mix of boys and I have made a lot of mates through the set-up. The Saracens boys Nathan (Michelow) and Tobias (Elliott) and then also good mates with Joe Woodward, Sam Harris; a lot of the backs I’d say I am quite close with from hanging out with them and hanging out on the field as well doing passing, kicking…”

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Junior World Championship selection was Bracken’s reward for his long dedication to learning his trade. “My dad introduced me to Saracens when I was probably six or seven and I actually didn’t want to go there as a child,” he said, explaining how he started out in the sport. “So I chose Barnet Elizabethans where more of my friends were at.

“It was my local rugby club; it only took me five minutes to get there so it was an easy drive or run down there, I had a lot of my mates playing there and I knew a lot of people, so it was quite easy to fit into that straight away and it has been rugby since then on.

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“I played it all the way through school. I have tried other sports. I tried a bit of basketball. Wasn’t tall enough. Tried a bit of cricket. Didn’t really like it. I was a goalkeeper in football for a bit, but rugby has always been the main sport.”

Counties selection followed, as did switching into the Saracens youths programme, and the London club’s senior academy scrum-half now has five first-team appearances on his CV, including a Gallagher Premiership debut off the bench in early May at Bath.

Progressing through the ranks was no mean feat. “It started off with the county stuff, which is where we have Hertfordshire, Essex and Kent. Within that, there were elite player programmes with just a few selected boys, which I managed to get into. Having that to start off with was really good.

“The counties would play each other and then you would get selected into the main academy squad, which was cut down month on month and was a scary process, but by the end of that we were into the academy and that was a great learning experience.

“Definitely, it was a lot of pressure at a young age and that was a good experience to help me with more stressful environments and with pressure and expectation, like you would get in a game for example, having to deal with knowing you could be cut at any point, so making sure you always played your best in and always giving it your all. It has helped me enjoy the game a bit more because you never know, any game can be your last.

“When covid was going on, I missed a bit of the England U18s stuff. That hindered my development a bit and I had symptoms of long covid, shortness of breath and that. Having missed out on that first camp, I was hungrier than ever to make my way back into that U18 set up and then it all accelerated from there really. I went from playing one U18s game into a 19s game and then into the 20s for a summer series in the blink of an eye, so that was great.”

The further Bracken has gone up the ranks, the more influential the pep talks from his dad who has seen and done it all himself. “More recently he has helped me quite a lot. I’m very critical of my own game, I don’t really see the good aspects. I mainly focus on where I can improve, so he is quite good at telling me where I have done well if I thought I have had a bad game.

“He will bring up, ‘Actually, you did this well, you did that well’, so he keeps me quite level-headed which is quite good after a game. He will give me a review and feedback so I can know where I stand really rather than having my own opinion determining everything.

“My dad has been a big inspiration, a great motivation. Even now looking back at some of his games, it is a great inspiration and it shows where hard work can get you. He has also been really helpful in terms of developing me as a player. For example, with skills, we would go out every weekend and do passing and kicking for hours.”

Give us an example of his feedback, though. “My dad gave me an eight out of 10 against Ireland but I was less than that,” he said with a chuckle. “I’d an alright game but I want to have a bit more of an impact, trying to play quickly and affecting the defence as much as I can.

“When I was younger, I used to focus on my mistakes a lot more than I do now. I like to focus on the mental side of things, coming into games with a real positive attitude, just going out to enjoy it and everything like that. All my prep I make sure I’m in the right mental state so that if something does go wrong or if I do make a mistake, I am able to bounce back from it quickly and focus on the next thing.”

Kryan Bracken was born in Co Dublin and used to get quite a fierce on-field reception whenever he played Ireland, so it was curious to hear his son Charlie reference how Jamison Gibson-Park, the current No9 in Andy Farrell’s Irish Test team, name-checked as a major influence on the English youngster’s energetic style of play.

“The main aspect of my game is getting that speed of ball. I know Jamison Gibson-Park is great at having that quick speed of ball. I’m sort of modelling like that, but I am also bringing to my game trying to beat defenders and bringing the ball to the line almost like (Antoine) Dupont but I don’t think I am a Dupont-like player. I’m a more passing, kicking type of nine.

“With the way the game is going and how quick teams play, having a nine that can service the ball at such speed is a great utility for a team so I’m trying to definitely model my game off that but everything can change in the blink of an eye really. As we have said with Gibson-Park coming through, he is a great player and he really helps out Ireland’s attack.”

Bracken’s younger brothers Jack and Lachlan are also an influence. “Jack plays for the England U18s at full-back. He started off as a scrum-half, but he got a bit big so he has gone to full-back. He is great to pass a ball around with, to kick with, and then my youngest Lachlan is a rising talent.

“He is in the counties set up where I once was but he is a great player, very skilful, and he is coming for my job basically. I told him he should probably go somewhere else. I said to him, ‘Just go to another club if you could’, but I think he might stay at Sarries and I might be the one that has to move in the end,” he quipped.

Bracken checks in at “around 5′ 10” and a half and I’m roughly around 82, 83 kilos. I want to put on a couple more kilos, but I want to keep my fitness because that is another strong part of my game. I want to stay as fit as I can but put on a bit more muscle and power. I don’t think I am going to get any taller, but to be fair as a nine you can’t be too tall so I am happy with the height I am in my position.”

The last word goes to Bracken’s situation at Saracens. Until now he has been combining his club rugby with geography studies at Loughborough University, but that balance will now tilt more to the rugby in 2023/24. “Saracens is an unbelievable club, a load of hard-working individuals. It’s a great environment, the first team is very welcoming and they all speak to the younger kids. I’m glad I am a part of that.

“In terms of the future, I’m planning to put more focus on rugby in the next couple of years. Not put uni on hold but split that over a longer period of time so I can get the most out of my rugby at the moment, learn off Owen Farrell, Ivan van Zyl whilst being in a full-time environment.”

Farrell especially has made a lasting impression. “He is a great role model, a great leader which is one of his really good qualities. He leads Sarries in such a great way. Similarly with England. He is that character that everyone looks up to and everyone feels comfortable playing with when you know you are being led by him.

“He shows you how far hard work can get you. He is very talented but he also works extremely hard and even still he is such a hard worker. He knows what it is like to be in the senior academy, so he is really nice.

“Also, he still expects high standards from us so if we are not up to standard, he will make that clear because he wants it to be an excellent training environment. Personally, he has helped me a lot. He has helped me with my kicking actually. Even though he is a fly-half he knows every aspect of the game, so he has been really useful.”

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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