'That was pretty disrespectful' - Wasps hooker's unconventional try celebration raises hackles online

When you say turners then around - they were horrendous and got absolutely pumped by wales at the World Cup and by Argentina recently

So it’s not hard to improve from that

And now they play a decent side (albeit still not top four) and get pumped 4 tries to 1

The ABs have their own issues but I’ll take our 6 class props and other areas of improvement every day

Almost 100 tests. Fassi is growing from test to test and is already world class. It’s going to be difficult for Damian Willemse to usurp Fassi at 15 and may find himself destined as the utility back on the bomb squad.

South Africans love hating on their fullback. A proud tradition since Percy Montgomery (before he won us a World Cup). So I don’t pay much mind to the noise that follows anyone who puts on the 15 jersey for SA.

15 is a high risk, low reward position. You don’t dare drop a high ball, certainly don’t shank a kick into the stands. In fact if you’re not kicking 60m torpedoes into the opposition corners - stay at home.

And miss tackles? After everyone else on the team has let a break through - best you not miss!

Only Andre Joubert strikes me as a fullback that has been better than Willie. Yet Willie has been widely panned on a regular basis. Irritating.

Fassi is great. And I’m sure he’s learning a lot from Willie.

This loser vibe was borne out over the SR season where we won only 4 games while losing 10. Finishing 9th in a 12 team competition & missing a QF spot was next level DOWN.

There's zero evidence that suggests we will win 10 games (70%) as you predict. I understand there may be new assistant coaches coming on board. At this stage, we can only hope for the best.

A 75% win ratio during the Autumn series “ain’t bad”!?

How the mighty have fallen.

Funny, when the Boks didn’t win all their games they were called a “kak team between world cups”.

Having said that, the Le Roux superpower is vision for space. Fassi and Willemse both have a long way to go before they are able to perform those bridge passes and kick passes with Willie's level of judgement, timing, deception and execution.

It’s unfair to judge Tupaea on the handful of games he’s had in 2022 before he got nearly crippled by a Wallaby lock. What could Tupaea/Proctor pairing be, if they got the same amount of chances as Jordie/Rieko?

Because no matter how you spin it, playing a player outside of his natural position is a poor asset management. No matter how talented he is, he still competes against players who had years and years of practice at the position. And if said guy is so talented that he actually CAN compete against specialists, imagine how much better still he could have been, if he had all those years to iron the toothing issues at the position. It just drives me mad.

Two things I hate in rugby union beyond description: aping after league, and playing players outside of their natural position. Especially considering, that they all admit they hate it, when they’re allowed to speak freely. Owen Farrell spent 80% of his international career at 12, saying every time when asked, that he is a 10 and prefers to play at 10. Those players are literally held at a gunpoint: play out of position, or no national jersey for you.