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The 10am call an upset Sale gave referee Ian Tempest last Sunday

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Sale boss Alex Sanderson has revealed he was on the phone venting to referee Ian Tempest the morning after last weekend’s dramatic Gallagher Premiership at Northampton. The second-place Sharks had built an impressive 24-7 half-time lead despite the early red-carding of Manu Tuilagi. They went on to lead 34-19 with 20 minutes remaining despite a Cobus Wiese sin-binning but they then lost momentum, eventually losing 34-38 in a fiercely entertaining match during which they suffered a critical Ewan Ashman yellow card on 67 minutes.

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The setback upset Sanderson and he was on the blower on Sunday morning to talk things through with Tempest before then forwarding a series of clips from the Sale game for review by the referees’ group at the RFU. The feedback that resulted was that the Manchester side was extremely unfortunate, but England Rugby HQ stood by the decisions taken by their officials at Franklin’s Gardens.

“It’s done now and I’m trying not to keep carrying it but the communication between myself, Ian Tempest, (referees boss) Paul Hull and every other ref before this weekend has been nothing short of brilliant,” said Sanderson ahead of this Sunday’s trip to Exeter where Luke Pearce will be in charge.

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The feedback that we got was that it was extremely unfortunate that all the big decisions went against Sale… If that is how they are going to see the game I have got to coach accordingly.

“Their openness to speak post-game, to speak pre-game… I rang up Ian at 10 o’clock on Sunday morning because I was still carrying it and he answered the phone on his day off – and it’s his day with his family. That’s brilliant. We talked around the issues and I vented a bit and he’d tell me how he saw it and then I sent the clips through on Monday.

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“There’s none of that process that I found frustrating from the weekend. It was just the inconsistency of some of the decisions, the inconsistency because they weren’t all bad by any stretch. It was a great game to watch. But for us to get it that wrong and the admittance that all the big decisions went against us, I guess the blame has to fall on us. We weren’t either coaching it correctly or weren’t clear enough as to the pictures they wanted to see.

Sanderson, who has been in charge at Sale since January 2021, went on to explain the current lines of communication between Premiership teams and referees during the 2022/23 season. “There is more forum for communication this year which has been beneficial,” he said. “It has certainly benefited us in our understanding and the improvement in the discipline.

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“So you are able to speak to them up to 48 hours before a game. There is some leeway, you are able to send clips through about the opposition to get clarity as to what their perception of certain infringements are. Also, in terms of us, we like the refs to speak to the opposition about the clips we send through, so it’s not just a case of catching people out. We want the whistle to blow less and for the referee to have less impact on the outcome of the game. That is the pre-game process.

“Post-game you can send up to eight clips in within 24 hours and what I have been doing personally is generally calling the refs up and having a conversation, like a 360 feedback on what he perceived and also our perceptions or feelings of how it was reffed and how it was communicated on the field because that relationship is also important.

“And then on the back of that, you will get feedback on the clips we send in… I might add I haven’t sent in any clips post-game this season until this week at which point there were wholly disregarded. It just means I need to improve my communication with them so I understand.”

Sanderson added that it would a positive for the sport as a spectacle if non-working referees could potentially work with broadcasters during a match to explain decisions as they happen. “Definitely. We have 45 players, some of them who have played for up to 20 years, and we still get refs in consistently so they can communicate what they are seeing, what the directives are from World Rugby.

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“Sometimes it shifts within the 3,000 laws that there are what they are looking to emphasize because the game takes on trends as does the refereeing of certain aspects of the game, general set-piece and breakdown. There is a constant re-education of our players and they are on the coalface.

“Like when Wayne Barnes goes onto Rugby Tonight and they talk through certain decisions, whether or not they can explain it or there is a referee as part of the commentary and they could talk them on certain decisions from a referee’s perspective to tell the audience, to tell the people so there is a better connection there as to what is going on. Like I say, I probably need a bit of that myself.”

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GrahamVF 12 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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