The All Blacks have been pretty ordinary but now will win the World Cup
Who among us hasn’t written off the All Blacks over the last four years?
Who hasn’t commented on the competence of the coaching staff or expressed reservations about the prowess of the players? Who hasn’t criticised our playing methods or the New Zealand pathway from schools, to provincial and Super Rugby?
Is there anyone who hasn’t suggested that the rest of the world isn’t playing a better, more effective brand of footy than us?
And yet, in a few days’ time, the All Blacks are likely to be crowned Rugby World Cup champions.
I reckon it’s because we care that we criticise. I suspect that if we just worshipped the ground the team walks on, that they wouldn’t ever improve.
I’m not sure any of us honestly saw this day coming – particularly after the loss to South Africa at Twickenham and first-up pool stage defeat to France – but here we are.
The All Blacks have enjoyed a comparatively easy ride to get to this point, the Springboks have not and that’ll be telling come the final.
I’m not sure South Africa can rouse themselves one last time and assume that New Zealand will have that extra bit of skill and talent to take advantage of what opportunities arise.
I still can’t quite believe this situation, but then we’ve been on the opposite end of it plenty of times before.
The knock on All Black teams between 1987 and 2011 was that they couldn’t front at the Rugby World Cup.
Sure, they were often exceptional between tournaments, but basically choked when it counted.
The team has done it a different way this time. I very much doubt that’s by design, but it doesn’t alter the outcome.
I still retain reservations about the solidity of the All Blacks’ set pieces, I still reckon their loose trio is only adequate and that Richie Mo’unga is yet to fully command the world stage from first five-eighth.
I remain a Beauden Barrett enthusiast, but I accept many folk continue to argue Will Jordan would be a better bet at fullback. Others have reservations about Rieko Ioane’s suitability as a centre.
But, as I said before, here we are. On the brink of glory.
To me, this is the beauty of sport. It’s why, as they say in the classics, they play the games.
Betting odds are just that. Form is largely illusory. We buy our tickets and tune in to watch games partly because we can never be absolutely certain of the result.
As I wrote last week, I don’t believe a world cup win necessarily changes the narrative around these All Blacks. I think they have been pretty ordinary for years now and I can’t help but think that the success of this campaign owes more to good luck than good management.
Lord knows I’ll never be accused of being an All Blacks cheerleader, but I can’t see any other result in this final than a win to New Zealand by 10 to 12 points.
Well well well…🙈
“Lord knows I’ll never be accused of being an All Blacks cheerleader, but I can’t see any other result in this final than a win to New Zealand by 10 to 12 points”.
JL what happened to:
This one is in the bag. Mortgage it and thank me later. Over by half time.”
unfortunately the only thing over by halftime was Cane’s world cup! Hope you followed your own advice and “Mortgage it”…..enjoy sleeping under the stars Boet!!😂
Can’t see any other result you said Hamish…hope you see it now. It was also you who said back in July that this was an old Springbok side nearer the end of their careers😉 Guess these oldies showed you a thing or two
This gotta be the most bait article I’ve ever seen. Or just another of Hamish’s jumping the gun takes.
This type of arrogance is hilarious even as an All Blacks fan myself
its going to be a really interesting one. sa have gone a 7-1 bench. but then maybe we will see a late “injury” change pre-kickoff. won’t surprise me. i would. mind games.
wayne barnes will once again be the decider as he was all those years ago. he will decide nzs fate as both a fresh ref and as a retiring ref.
if we get more than 40 minutes of play or we go to extra time its nzs game. but if sa can force stoppages and drink breaks then its probably going to them. sa wins when there is very little time where ball is in play.
thankfully nz is the fresher team. if it had been the other way round, nz would not have been able to match up front. but maybe they will come saturday. 15 tired boks vs 13 fresh ab forwards. i’ll call that even. will 4 young props be heros.
I completely agree. The author nails it. The ABs are going to teach the Bokkies a lesson they will never forget. I look forward to inflicting generational trauma on the Bokkies and their supporters. All NZ pundits are predicting an easy win. AB by 20, at least! Ben Smith agrees and so do the bookies. This one is in the bag. Mortgage it and thank me later. Over by half time.
I’m new in the rugbyworld. I’ve watched the latest WC and the 6 N over the past years. I love the importance of the role ‘respect’ plays in this beautifull sport, at least for what I can observe on tele on the field .. Up to now my dissappointment in this tournement is that for the first time (to my .. ) on a high level, a large part of the crowd, in casu the Irish supporters refused to show respect to the Haka by keeping silence, in the quarter f. Thus boosting up the tension and drive in the Blacks . I might sound naïve. No prob. Lack of respect and it’s consequences .. go see soccer/football.
Likely? Its 50:50 at BEST. Rubbish article
Excellent article, basically summarizes exactly where many if not most longer term Allblack supporter's beliefs sit.
The big question mark remains, there is no question it’s an Allblacks side that's currently very dangerous, the most dangerous team of the two finalists by far, the best forward pack and the best backline.
However do they really have the killer instinct to impose themselves on the Boks? They've been at times an absolute disgrace, disgraced the legacy and the jersey like never before during this cup cycle. They've been an absolute roller coaster ride.
The reality is the Allblacks have switched gears, they've got rid of most players that didn't have the burning hunger and have brought in two exceptionally high quality coaches in Ryan and Schmidt. There's not a single starter that isn't hungry, likewise the bench with it's greatest weakness being an aged Whitelock.
The Boks still have key players like Faf, Pollard, Etzebeth, but losing Malcom Marx was a huge blow, as good as the Allblack hookers are Marx would be starting ahead of them all. Marx looms as a huge shadow of deepest despair over the Boks, in the prime of his physicality Marx has been replaced by a tiny 37 year old that doesn't even play hooker. An extremely disrespectful decision by the Bok coaches that's a ticking time bomb that the Allblacks will use to target Bongi’s poor stamina.
The Boks are worse than the 2019 team, least liked supporters, low on confidence, many of the players including the captain are not worthy of being in the 23, the coach is deeply unpopular within the team and even more unpopular with match officials, they're inferior to the Irish team and shouldn't have beaten France or even England.
However the Boks remaining x factor players are still going to turn up and will try to drag the rest with them to carry the tradition of getting up to play their most respected rival. The Allblacks are going to have to be clinical because if they start timid the Boks will have a chance at pulling off the greatest upset since 1995.
What a massive arrogant troll you are
“The Boks are worse than the 2019 team, least liked supporters, low on confidence, many of the players including the captain are not worthy of being in the 23, the coach is deeply unpopular within the team and even more unpopular with match officials, they're inferior to the Irish team and shouldn't have beaten France or even England” Where do you get these facts from? is it it just opinion? Rather don’t let ChatGPT write your thoughts.
There is a mistaken belief that to criticize is disloyal. It is not. It is a vital pillar of civilized society as long criticism does not encourage or lead to violence or hate. This applies to politics or sport.
To question decisions made by a coach or a player is not disloyal. To suggest a coach or player is not up to the standard that is expected for his position is not disloyal.
The simple truth is because Kiwis are so passionate supporters of the All Blacks that, after the home series loss to Ireland, they pressured NZR to fire Foster and replace him with Robertson, Foster was forced to fire his assistants Plumbtree and Moar to avoid his own dismissal, and hired Ryan (Robertson’s forward coach) and Schmidt to replace them. And this was the catalyst that turned around a sinking ship.
Foster does deserve a share of the credit for the turn around. He allowed his assistants the freedom to implement the structures they wanted under their area of responsibility and gave them a say in the selection of players they wanted for those structures.
It wasn't a great idea of Foster appointing a fruit tree as one of his initial assistants.
Incredibly perceptive comments. I wouldn’t trade Foster for Rassie. Rassie hasn’t achieved half the historic firsts of Foster. Foster also brings massive pedigree as a longstanding Waikato first five compared with Rassies middling international playing career. Foster to out coach Rassie by 20+ this weekend.
While I agree RM has perhaps not nailed the 10 role over the years, he has noticeably improved over this WC campaign since the French outing. There has been a noticeable change that has happened, Beauden Barratt has touched the ball a lot less and has hardly stepped into the 10 position in recent matches. Foster has undermined RM’s authority throughout his tenure but for whatever reason a change has occurred. RM and the team are noticeably better for it - there’s so much more clarity. As Foz is a stubborn old mule, I can only assume Schmidt has finally convinced him this duel playmaker thing just isn’t working. Better late than never I suppose.
They've actually moved to a quad playmaker structure with Jordie, Smith, Richie and Beauden. Beaudens very active offensively in the pocket.
Richie is now confident and firing, a guy in his prime.
Cognitive dissonance = “But, as I said before, here we are. On the brink of glory” + “they couldn’t front at the Rugby World Cup”. Hope it does not have a mental toll on the poor writer of this article.
You know what needs to be done, Easy Company, and those of us who proudly embrace the black jumper with the silver fern, have invincible faith you’ll get the job done!
Wayne Barnes was on the breakdown panel, a couple of years ago, that recommended a bunch of refereeing interpretations. If he is strict on NZ obstruction at the breakdown SA will either get a lot of penalties or get fast ruck ball and jackling turnovers. Either way it swings the game in favor of SA. Schmidt will be studying Barnes's recent breakdown interpretations intensely.
I’m no expert on the breakdown but it was noticeable how SA bodies where falling all over the ruck left right and centre in the QF - the French ball became pedestrian. If teams are not pushing the laws a little they are probably not in the final. The bad news for SA is Barnes likes to let the game run.
No matter how the all blacks play, make sure you stay miserable.
If they lose, miserable.
If they win, that’s just doing their job so who cares, miserable.
Far too much damn enjoyment going on. Winning a World Cup is supposed to make us forget the times they didn’t win?
Yeah.. lets wait & see. Zero pressure against a woeful argentina & against a determined Bok team will be very very diffrerent.
Yeah plus they had an easy game against Ireland who only came up against shite teams in the pools ;)
Your support from BB (who has played well only at the RWC recently) and criticism of Mo'unga who out played Sexton and Ireland in QF shows that have lost the plot.
Also the evidence is that the Abs setpiece with the right starters can mix it with anyone. So I really don't know that you look at facts vs holding on to your opinions regardless, and for a scribe that is the worst sin
Hamish is a perfect example of a NZ rugby journalist. Their idea of good play and good players is what makes the highlights reel. The perfect example of good rugby journalism is Spiro Zavos on The Roar today.
Hamish was a great supporter of Caleb Clarke and Arika Ioane and he has that in common with John Kirwan the worst NZ Super Rugby Coach of all time.
The rule of thumb is if he plays for the Blues he must be good !!!
There are a number of things to dislike about this article. Firstly, it is prematurely assuming a win - which is never a good thing - and secondly, it is doing so with a stroppy tone that denotes an attitude that wishes his own team would have lost already.
I will say that I am an All Blacks fan who has had plenty of criticism of the coaching appointment and the personal record of Foster. I stand by those criticisms as fair too - it isn’t as if the NZR didn’t intervene to make replacements for Foster’s assistant coaches or that observable errors have not been made along the way. I also felt that, fundamentally, the appointment process wasn’t based on merit but on a flawed policy of ‘continuity’ which has also had to be addressed, moving forward.
All that said and done, however, the team as a whole is winning on merit not because of some prejudicial opinion that they deserve to win or lose. They deserve to win because they are winning - and that it the end of it. As an All Blacks supporter, I approve.
Hamish has openly hated on Foster pretty much from day one. But he should know that World Cups don’t pick the best team in the world - they pick a champion for a tournament.