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The All Blacks who are on the World Cup selection bubble after 2022

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The All Blacks made significant strides in 2022 towards finding the 33 players who will jump on a plane to France next year, with many experienced campaigners potentially on the outside looking in after the turbulent season.

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The coaching shake-up that saw new assistants Jason Ryan and Joe Schmidt join the All Blacks staff has altered the arc of a few playing careers, propelling some into the frame whilst others have slipped in standing.

With nine months to go until the start of the tournament, there is sure to be one or two late bloomers burst into contention and injuries will always play a role in the final selections.

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For the All Blacks, the backs for the World Cup squad are far more settled with most of the positions already secured, while it is the forwards that offer the most uncertainty.

The positional group that saw the most change in 2022 was the front row, once new forwards coach Jason Ryan arrived the All Blacks he swiftly introduced new props and a new rake.

The new trio of Ethan de Groot (24 years old), Samisoni Taukei’aho (25) and Tyrel Lomax (26), all in their mid 20s, started most of the tests following the first loss to South Africa and as such are expected to remain the first choice front row heading into next year barring a colossal form drop or injury.

There were five props taken to the last World Cup, and with the expanded squad size available next year there conceivably will be six taken in 2023, while it is still expected three hookers will be taken.

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Joe Moody coming off an ACL injury at 34 years old, who will turn 35 during the tournament, is in all likelihood at risk of missing out despite his immense experience.

With both De Groot and Crusaders teammate George Bower with far less tread of the tires established in the current squad, Moody will be up against it to beat out the younger bulls as one of the loosehead selections.

Aidan Ross, who started both matches for the All Blacks XV side, could push for selection as well, while Ofa Tu’ungafasi’s versatility on both sides could see him ranked higher than Moody.

On the other side of the scrum, Nepo Laulala has a lot to do to win back favour after falling well back in the pecking order after this year’s Ireland series.

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It was Laulala who looked a step behind at Twickenham coming off the bench, struggling to get around the park in the late game collapse. His defensive effort was not up to scratch with an inability to set early and cover space well, which led to the line break to Marcus Smith that ended with Beauden Barrett getting yellow carded.

An All Black debutant this year, Fletcher Newell, showed he is capable of much more in the impact role coming off the bench and the All Blacks coaches may have recognised the necessity for mobility and energy in the tight five.

The rise of Taukei’aho as the All Blacks starting hooker immediately puts one of the experienced pair of Codie Taylor and Dane Coles at risk of missing out.

Based on Taylor getting the majority of bench selections in the No 16 jersey, Coles will be up against it to make the World Cup at 36 years old months shy of 37, even as the third hooker.

Asafo Aumua, who fell out of favour in 2022, is the wildcard who can bring another powerful ball carrying option behind Taukei’aho should his Super Rugby form with the Hurricanes impress.

Three of the four locks are set in stone at this stage with Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick and Scott Barrett certainties to be picked. The man at risk of missing out is Blues lock Patrick Tuipulotu, who took a stint in Japan during 2022.

The former Blues captain when in top form would be a valuable asset for the All Blacks but the question remains whether the selectors want cover at blindside and lock, in which case Tupou Vaa’i could slot in over him as the fourth lock picked.

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In 2019 there were five loose forwards selected and this will likely stay the same. Sam Cane and Dalton Papali’i are definite selections as the two opensides, while Ardie Savea is a lock at No 8.

The trio of Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, and Hoskins Sotutu will fight off for two remaining selections but if locks Scott Barrett and Tupou Vaa’i are picked that can cover No 6, it could put pressure on Frizell and Ioane to both be selected.

On form, Sotutu would miss out right now but that would leave just one No 8 in the squad in Savea, relying on Ioane as cover.

Luke Jacobson, who has been used as a No 8 by the All Blacks, seems out of the picture at this stage despite being picked to attend the last World Cup and fan favourite Ethan Blackadder is going to find it hard to break back in as an openside with the form that Papali’i is in.

Just who the three halfbacks picked will be depends on how Folau Fakatava and TJ Perenara return to form following ACL injury.

Aaron Smith is a certainty having received most of the starts at No 9 in this World Cup cycle, while if fit Fakatava will also be picked.

Finlay Christie’s form when given the chance was not convincing in 2022, with a disappointing performance against Japan.

When Perenara returned to the side against Scotland, he performed well and added to his case of re-selection as the third No 9, but like Fakatava is going to spend a large portion of 2023 on the sidelines.

If Perenara and Fakatava are healthy in time they just might push Christie out of contention.

The two first fives are locked in already in Beauden Barrett and Richie Mo’unga. The only question is whether Damian McKenzie can return to form to push Stephen Perofeta out as the 10/15 cover in the squad.

In 2019 just four midfielders were picked and this is where the extra squad selection could be used. Jordie Barrett who likely will be picked as a fullback, is also a legitimate midfield option now.

If all healthy, Rieko Ioane, David Havili, Anton Lienert-Brown, Quinn Tupaea would be the four midfielders picked right now, with Jack Goodhue and Braydon Ennor missing out.

Roger Tuivasa-Sheck would be the fifth midfielder picked if he can show the versatility in 2023 to play on the right wing, covering two positions adequately. That would give him the edge over Goodhue and Ennor.

The outside backs are also locked in already with Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Stephen Perofeta the likely five to be picked unless McKenzie can deplace Perofeta as the first-five/fullback cover.

The 2023 Rugby World Cup will see the squad sizes expand from 31 players to 33, allowing for two more players than when the last tournament in Japan was played.

In this early All Blacks squad those extra two selections are used at prop and in the midfield.

Early All Blacks 2023 Rugby World Cup squad:

Props: Ethan de Groot (LH), George Bower (LH), Tyrel Lomax (TH), Ofa Tu’ungafasi (LH/TH), Fletcher Newell (TH), Angus Ta’avao (TH)
Outside looking in: Joe Moody (LH), Aidan Ross (LH), Nepo Laulala (TH),
Potential bolters: Ollie Norris (LH), Tamiati Williams (TH)

Hookers: Samisoni Taukei’aho, Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua
Outside looking in: Dane Coles
Bolter: George Bell

Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa’i
Outside looking in: Patrick Tuipulotu, Josh Lord
Bolter: Taine Plumtree

Loose Forwards: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Dalton Papali’i, Akira Ioane, Shannon Frizell
Outside looking in: Hoskins Sotutu, Luke Jacobson, Ethan Blackadder
Bolter: Anton Segner

Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, Folau Fakatava, TJ Perenara
Outside looking in: Finlay Christie, Brad Weber
Bolter: Cortez Ratima

First fives: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo’unga
Outside looking in: Damian McKenzie, Josh Ioane
Bolter: Ruben Love

Midfielders: Rieko Ioane, David Havili, Anton Lienert-Brown, Quinn Tupaea, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
Outside looking in: Jack Goodhue, Braydon Ennor
Bolter: Thomas Umaga-Jensen

Outside backs: Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Stephen Perofeta
Outside looking in: Leicester Fainga’anuku, Mark Telea
Bolter: Zarn Sullivan

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Chris 704 days ago

This is a weak team.
The props are ok at best, the locks are over the hill, Richie is a failure at ten, the centres except Jordie and Goodhue are awful and the defence out wide is nonexistent.
They will be dumped out in the quarters.

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Ngutho 739 days ago

Where is Shaun Stevenson?

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Poe 739 days ago

That's almost a description of current thinking. I was looking at it from here: Where are the spaces for a bolter? In which case. Front row,Lock/6/8/9/12/13/11&15.

For instance Shaun Stevensen at 15. Reiko at 11 and who?at 13. Come on the new guy. Or Shaun at u11 and Jordan at 15 and new wonder kid at 14. Maybe Ruby Tui in disguise.?. Opportunities for potential allblack bolters are there aplenty in this team

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mark 740 days ago

The team needs to be picked on form, then nz will have a chance.

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GrahamVF 21 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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