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The Andy Farrell answer to Ireland or South Africa being world No1

Ireland head coach Andy Farrell (Photo by Brendan Moran/Sportsfile via Getty Images)

Andy Farrell has claimed he has no interest in adding to the debate over whether his Ireland team or South Africa are currently the world’s best. The Irish travelled to the southern hemisphere four months after clinching back-to-back Six Nations titles and their tour to the home of the back-to-back Rugby World Cup champions generated lengthy chatter in the build-up over who genuinely is No1.

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Ireland beat South Africa 13-8 in a World Cup pool match in Paris last September but last weekend’s 27-20 win by the Springboks led to suggestions that there was quite a gap between the world’s top two ranked sides.

Those claims were then shredded by Saturday’s compelling conclusion in Durban, the Irish grabbing a last-gasp 25-24 win with an 80th-minute Ciaran Frawley drop goal. Head coach Farrell, though, refused to add his tuppence to the ‘who is the best?’ debate in the wake of the two-Test July series being drawn one-all.

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Springbok captain Siya Kolisi on his team’s performance in teh second Test against Ireland

The Springbok players were not on the same page during Saturday’s series decider against Ireland in Durban.

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Springbok captain Siya Kolisi on his team’s performance in teh second Test against Ireland

The Springbok players were not on the same page during Saturday’s series decider against Ireland in Durban.

“I actually don’t care, actually don’t care,” he said in the ground floor room at Kings Park that hosted the post-game media briefings. “Two good sides, you wouldn’t want to separate them.

“It is what it is and you could join a couple of other, even more, two or three, three or four countries into that because I actually think world rugby is in a good state because of that type of competition. Long may it continue.”

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His respect for the South Africans was clearly evident. “We have got a function now. I’m looking forward to that because you guys keep telling us it’s a long old season, a 13-month season for these guys but you wouldn’t think it.

“If we had lost there would have been no excuses at all because when you play for Ireland they are all proper Test matches, so there is no excuses. We’ll enjoy a beer with South Africa because the tussles have been immense.’

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Another aspect that Farrell wasn’t having any of was how Saturday was his 50th match in charge of Ireland since his promotion to head coach following the post-2019 World Cup departure of Joe Schmidt.

“I don’t know the relevance of that. It’s not a milestone and I don’t get the relevance. It’s irrelevant. As far as drama and the pressure we put on ourselves to perform, it is right up there. They [South Africa] are a wonderful team, a magnificent team.

“Last week was difficult for us, we said it as it was, that we weren’t happy, so we had to come out and perform and when you have those conversations, you are talking about character so for that to come through… that’s what sport is all about really.”

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Dave 160 days ago

Well said Andy focus on the rugby leave the BS to everyone else. Definitely at least four or five teams right up there at top level

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CO 160 days ago

Depends on the ref, the Allblacks are at least one point worse if you make them a player short and disallow their tries

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swivel 161 days ago

First Sexton says they didn’t think they’d get far at the World Cup, now their coach says they don’t care if they’re the best or not.

Their is something seriously wrong with the Irish psyche when it comes to competition

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Turlough 161 days ago

Well said Andy. I thought that conversation (started by some British pundits) and pushed everywhere by Rugby media was unfortunate. It was based on a big away victory against a French team who were favourites.
I understand the SA reaction: the implication could be that the best team didn't win the RWC.
The rankings IMO measure different things at different times. In between RWCs it de facto measures the most consistant team in contests between rested squads.
The hemisphere tournaments do stress depth to some degree but not compared to a RWC.
RWC tests the ability of a team to win tough knockout matches deep in a tournament with squad depletion and accumulated fatigue and under massive pressure. It is often not the same beast. That’s why you saw the RWC play out with (arguably) the best one off test team (Ireland) beating SA in a pool, with the best ultimate team SA, winning the cup.
Both SA and Ireland must agree on one thing: NZ are the humblest team of all time. Humble heroes, in fact. 😉

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GrahamVF 42 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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