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The Andy Farrell reaction to the TMO calls that went against Ireland
By Liam Heagney
Andy Farrell has given his reaction to a frustrating 20-27 defeat for Ireland on Saturday evening in Pretoria, suggesting his team were potentially on the wrong end of some “dubious” TMO decisions. Ireland had a James Lowe try cancelled that would have levelled the match on 58 minutes, but a TMO review decided that Ronan Kelleher should instead be penalised for a ruck infringement.
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The TMO was again involved eight minutes later, ruling against Lowe after he attempted to keep a Handre Pollard touchfinder in play. He did keep it in play and Cheslin Kolbe took advantage of the resulting slack Irish support to score, but the big screen debate was whether Lowe had a foot in touch and the decision should have been a lineout.
Ireland also suggested they were unhappy with the tackle that resulted in Craig Casey getting taken away on a medical cart. Asked what he thought of the TMO interventions which went against Ireland, Farrell said: “It’s not for me to say but I saw quite a few of them live and they had a dubious thought about it but anyway, that’s life.
“We will go through the right channels and make sure we do things properly as far as those things are concerned. You’ll make of it what you want. We have to go through the right channels. Unlucky, lucky, that’s the game as well.”
Switching to the try scored by Kolbe, Farrell reckoned: “It was a special play by Kolbe to chase that ball and it’s one of the reasons why the won the World Cup with him chasing down the kicker in France, but we were slack not backing James up.
“You’ll make your own decision on whether he still had the ball in his right hand or whether the ball hit him as he threw it back into field and his foot was in touch. That’s for us all to debate. It is what it is, that is the sport, it’s difficult to referee. You just want consistency, that’s all. Sometimes it’s goes for you and sometimes it doesn’t. You’ll make your own decision on the Craig thing.”
Lowe went on to be involved in the play that gifted South Africa a late scrum from which they scored a penalty try and had Kelleher yellow carded. Farrell said it was an error by his winger to play the ball instead of letting it run dead but in the same breath he also defended Lowe.
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“It’s an error, an error and I have no doubt that James will put his hand up to that. It’s fool’s gold really. Some of the kick offs as well in the first half, Craig caught and we ended up 20 metres out from our line. If you have got the courage to let it bounce it probably goes dead but at the same time if it bounces up you will look stupid, so we don’t know what could have happened either way really.”
Farrell’s overall take on the game was that Ireland didn’t fire in the first half and words were had at the break. “It had a little bit of everything, the unexpected was popping up at times and that was the game in the end. South Africa deserved to win the game, so congratulations to them.
“First half I thought we were off. I thought was gave away access for them to be able to play their game. Defensively we were a bit passive, certainly for the first try. But then the story of the game for me after some words at half time, I thought it was courageous at times how we defended and got ourselves into the game. In fact it is the make-up of this team.
“History would say that even with the type of performance in the first half we hung on in there and we don’t go away. There is plenty of teams that would have been under the pump in the first half and got the game run away with in the second half and we didn’t, we stayed in the fight and could have, should have, would have at times with some decisions that rightly or wrongly didn’t go our way.”
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“You’ll make your own decision on whether he still had the ball in his right hand or whether the ball hit him as he threw it back into field and his foot was in touch”
An easier decision is whether or not you should be trying to slap a loose ball in front of a player like Kolbe, especially when you know he will be chasing the kick.
Nope. Every player would do as Lowe. Irish backs were asleep. There was at least two in proximity, with just Kolbe chasing they would have ran it back into the SA half.
I wonder if Luke Pearce and Ben Whitehouse had a little wager at Paddy Power before the match.
Dan on here is getting it in the neck isn’t he? 🤣
The game was a huge advertisement for rugby union. Two very good teams both played their hearts out. Ireland were unlucky on a few occasions but for me the standout defining factor was the penalty try. That was possibly the most dominant in top level international rugby for many years. The other standout for me was that it seems that the roles have been reversed. South Africa get the ball wide time after time while Irelandcerre Ireland were bashing up the middle. The other notable thing is how Ireland defended. Some of those Bok attacks which Ireland quelled would have ended in tries against many other international teams. Well done to both teams for an incredible game of rugby which could have gone either way. Hard luck Ireland you played it bloody well. Well done Boks you rode your luck - and your scrum.
As a Springbok supporter, I have 2 Points of concerne.
1- We let too many oppertunities slip, and it so almost came back to bight us. Against Ireland and the all blacks especially, you can not under any circumstances get so close tho their try line and not convert it into points. Nothing against any teams, but most other teams play off momentum, Ireland and the all blacks can come back to win a game that has already been lost.If you in their 22, you atleast need a 3 pointer.
Point 2- Out of the 3 tries Ireland scored, Jerry will likely be extremely pissed about 2, their first and 3rd. Those really slipped and we should have done more to make them hard to score.
I like the shape of our new attack, I hope it will still improve, but we still have a problem of starting great, then seem to run out of ideas when we right be the try line.
I will take this win, but I do feel we had some luck on our side, We have our work cut out for us in Durban.
Lets hope its just signs of a new defense and attack system that will dominate once we get it right.
To the Irish, be proud, your guys rugby team is seriously an amazing team at the moment, keep your head up with pride!
The boks have largely been criticized for not being able to beat Ireland and being one dimensional. They just beat the 6N champs and showed a completely different approach to attack - in what was this teams first outing (discounting a more experimental side played against Wales).
Was everything polished by either side - certainly not - but there were major positives to take from that game and some amazing form demonstrated by most of the key personnel across both teams.
SA and Ireland showed why they’re the no.1 and no. 2 teams in the world. Head and shoulders above the rest.
It was a terrible show for the most part from the NH contingent controlling the games. Next week when, I assume, the controllers are, in turn, from the SH the games should be much better. Much less pedantic.
Why is the game/kicker being stopped all the time as well? They changed the law so that the decisions/try can be overturned up until the restart. Let the kicker kcik and the TMO make the call in the background, and of course, if it’s not clear that it should be overtuned in that time, then it obviously should not be looked at any further.
I expected the other half of the Kiwi contingent to turn up and be a key this game, but Bundee was quite, it was a one man job for Lowe to win Ireland that game, and unfortunately he was cruely denied. Ireland had a good run, and I think they will continue to stay near the top 3 or 4 teams and push them in most games. Maybe when another generation comes they will have a better chance? But with only 160 pros it is very much an uphill battle.
I've no issue with most of them but Lowe’s chalked off try to make it 13-13 on 60 mins was a brutal call.
Totally missed that Kelleher was in the process of getting his neck rolled by le roux when he marginally made contact with the ball via his leg.
Boks never looked like losing though.
Even if the neck roll had been chalked up- the try doesn’t stand. Penalty to Ireland.
Yeah, good point, I didn’t check for that but it must have been up around the shoulders at some point huh?
I it was a clear flick back, I’d suggest his intention before he went off his feet, but certainly not marginal in any respect. What was marginal was definitely blowing that back for his knew making contact with a guy on the ground his before rucking it back though.
And in that regards, they go back and look at Lowe in touch, ‘no’, but then fail to rule that it brushed his thigh when it was in touch. So that’s twice he went back to look at one thing and didn’t notice another. I thought SA which the better side by a margin but two very unlucky decisions (was there not more too?).
Outrageous call by the refs penalizing this Irish team. Has no one told them the Irish are the best team on the planet and have been for years. How dare they
Without any World Cups they can only win 6 nations and beating top teams but when it comes to where it matter the most they just suffocated in big games.Irland had become Quater final specialist.
As an Irish fan I’ve no problem with any of the tmo calls at all. The two contentious ones I feel being Casey and Lowe, in Casey’s case on replay it’s just an unfortunate rebound off the ground that got him, you could question the timing but when it’s in slo mo it’s hard to tell if RG was committed plus they’re club mates doubt he wanted to injure him. In Lowes case I do think he touched the ball while his foot was on the ground with his right hand but unfortunately it’s not the refs job to infer it they need to see it and the angle just didn’t exist so it is what it is, South Africa might’ve scored anyway who knows.
I do take issue with a lot of his small calls though and the lack of TMO intervention we were promised. These days half of Le Rouxs passes seem to be a mile forward and there was one blatant one I was annoyed wasn’t called. Also in the opening minutes De Klerk very clearly knocked the ball on at the base of the ruck and Pearse was staring right at it and didn’t call it, I think they scored two phases later which is pretty frustrating, a lot of blatant sealing off as well but sure of course I’ll notice that you know yourselves. You don’t need to comment telling me about how us Irish are actually dirty cheats I’m sure he missed stuff we did too but from an Irish perspective it did seem like the two of them were doing their best to not be the next big stars in a Rassie expose 👀
Either way it was a good game in spite of all that and it was very good to see us stay in the fight even when we went two scores down, Jamie Osbourne did really well at Fullback although a few kinks need ironing, I could see him being used now to give Lowe or Keenan breaks as physically he matches Lowes profile with the big left boot and solid frame.
Well done South Africa on a great win hopefully we get one back on you next week!
Pretty much what I would say Rob, and I second “ Good Post”. I thought the score might have blown out more, but Ireland really came into the game as the second half developed. This was a very powerful Bok team. It was actually the second line front row that put the nail in the coffin. Marx made an impct too over the ball. I thought the Irish starting front row were very good, even shading the Bok starting three at times.
You two really love going head to head with some terrible takes, don’t you?
Osbourne’s good, no?
A 6’9” lock tackling a 5’5” scrum half - in full flight - will always look ugly.
Hope he's ok but just rotten luck. No malice.
Good post but I’ll counter this with blatant breakdown infringements by Ireland all day long that went unpunished by the ref. Swings in roundabouts.
I thought a few things were overlooked by the TMO…..But Ireland in the first half just weren't good enough. Congrats to SA they always find a way to grind out a win.
I’ll counter and say Ireland weren’t good enough between 0-10 minutes in and 60-70 minutes the rest were even enough but it was the drop off there that decided it either way SA deserved the win
So typical.
“When we win, that’s because we’re better, when we lose it’s the refs.”
Grow up, Andy.
What a difference to Peter O’Mahony, who refused to take the refuge in whining about the refs in the post game interview.
He said South Africa were better. Grow up.
He was asked about ref decisions and answered honestly. No whinging, he even said it himself that “that’s life” so take your own advice and grow up.
Second place sucks
Ah I dunno if it’s that bad, i’m sure 11th place Wales would love to be where we are. Especially considering over the last decade they were as good or better than us depending on who had home advantage. Real shame their union were so complacent on the fact they had a lot of one-off generational talent they neglected their grass roots
It has to be frustrating to be a Bok supporter and know your team clearly isn’t good enough to win without the incompetence of the referees.
The curse of being just another overrated 💩 SH rugby side.
Youd think World Rugby would have learned a lesson after the embarrassment of the RWC and the stain it put on the game. But seems not.
Yep. Great data-driven observation.
Watching the Bok fans at Loftus yesterday you couldn’t miss the mood. Maybe not frustration, exactly. Maybe pride? Excitement? Something like that?
Great to see!
You’re obviously English. They do have the best bitter in the world 🤣
This is just blatant rage bait. You can’t genuinely think this 🤣
3-1 to the SH Dan, suck it!
The only stain is the one in the panty you wore while your team lost to the World Champions. 50/50 calls nearly always go to the home team. Take the loss.
Oh Dan, what a sad little post
You clearly are not actually Irish
😂 queue the excuses!
So sorry we won. We’ll try to make it up to you.
Geez Dan, surely it can’t be THAT bad🧐😂
Dan “the half man”, you never fail to entertain. Thank you for putting the biggest smile on my face.
Dan this is the deal. All your replies either blame the refs, contain a turd emoji in a post or claim SH sides to be over rated. Basically you are a three trick pony. SH teams, refs and turds. It's a complex game man, you need to branch out beyond the emojis with dooh-dooh.
Ok, so of all the games, in all of professional rugby RWC history, you never and I mean never got beyond a 1/4. The SH teams won ALL and I repeat ALL but one cup.
Finally, we have beaten you more times than we lost in all the years, and the last time our coach played it was at Loftus and the score was 33-0.
Bro, I like your nation, even before I met you. And still do. Big fan of Dublin and Dingle and the barber who spoke with me about BOD. Don't ruin the memory of a people defiant of tyrany and gracious in defeat.
Yeah, I’m sure the South Africans are extremely frustrated for being the fans of the team that’s won half of the Rugby World Cups they’ve ever played in.
I’m sure they’d rather support a team, that’s never made it past the quarters.
Now enjoy, little troll, you’ve gotten the attention you so much desire, and unlike in real life, people are talking to you here.
You must remember that SA is always the black sheep when it comes to the refs…not Ireland..they are the “peoples champions :-) “
Imagine being a grown man and so salty and sad. Please never think about procreating.
We OWN you on every conceivable level. We are your mother, father and God. We eat you for supper and drink you for lunch. Remember this.
Cry some more boet😘
Salty Cunt
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