Northern Edition

Select Edition

Northern Northern
Southern Southern
Global Global
New Zealand New Zealand
France France

The average height and weight of outside centres

Garry Ringrose offloads out of a Wasps tackle during his first European appearance with Leinster in November 2015 (Photo by Ian Walton/Getty Images)

While it is hard to perfectly describe what an ideal outside centre looks like, there are still expectations and requirements among different rugby cultures. The best No.13s in history have differed from one another in terms of height and weight, but have all been successful, as it is a position where there is not necessarily a blueprint to which players should aspire to.

ADVERTISEMENT

But there are still patterns that emerge when comparing outside centres across the top three leagues in Europe, France’s Top 14, England’s Gallagher Premiership and the Guinness Pro14.

The best week so far in 2020 to compare the three leagues was probably the first in January, as that was the last time teams could field their strongest teams before the European cups, the Six Nations and now the coronavirus outbreak.

Video Spacer

The Rugby Pod I Season 4 I Episode 33

Video Spacer

The Rugby Pod I Season 4 I Episode 33

When looking at the No.13 position, there is a discernible divide between the Premiership and the other two leagues in Europe, with the English league fielding significantly bigger players.

The centres in the Top 14 and the Pro14 are nearly identical, only differing slightly in height. The average weight in both leagues was 94kg (14st11lb), while the French league was on average only a centimetre taller at 1m84 (6’0”) compared to 1m83 (6’0”).

There is still some differentiation between the two leagues though, partly the range of sizes in the Pro14, which had the joint heaviest, the lightest and the joint shortest players in Europe. These were the Cheetahs’ Sibusiso Sithole at 107kg (17st), the Scarlets’ Steffan Hughes at 83kg (13st1lb), and Glasgow Warriors’ Nick Grigg at 1m75 (5’9”).

So while there is quite a range of sizes of Pro14 outside centres, there is much more parity across the league in France, as was the case with inside centres as well. The Top 14 had no players over 100kg (15st11lb) while the Pro14 had three, and only two under 90kg (14st2lb) compared to the Pro14’s three, meaning the French league tends to stick roughly to the same bracket.

ADVERTISEMENT

Likewise, no player was taller than 1m90 (6’3”) in France, while Leinster’s Garry Ringrose was, and only one player, Brive’s Guillaume Galletier, was under 1m80 (5’11”), while three were in the Pro14, and four more were exactly 1m80.

In spite of there being more extremes in size in the Pro14, it still matches up almost identically to the Top 14 in the No.13 shirt.

The stark difference is between those two leagues and the Premiership, where outside centres weighed 5kg (11lb) more on average at 99kg (15st8lb). The English league also boasted taller outside centres on this weekend on average, at 1m87 (6’2”).

This was the same in the inside centre position, which is an indication that the Premiership is a league that favours larger centres. In this circumstance, there was an even greater difference in average weights between the Premiership and the other two leagues than there was at No.12.

ADVERTISEMENT

One feature, however, which perhaps illuminates a cultural difference between France and the British Isles, is that the outside centres in the Top 14 tended to weigh more than their midfield partner inside.

Only 43 per cent of the No.13s across France were lighter than the player inside them, with 50 per cent being heavier, and the rest being the same.

The Premiership and Pro14 are quite similar in this respect, as only 33 per cent were heavier in the Premiership, and 29 per cent were heavier in the Pro14. Having said this, two of the No.13s in England that were lighter than their partner still weighed in at over 100kg, which is yet again another indication of the league’s proclivity to pick more sizeable midfield combinations.

In terms of height, there was more or less an even split as to whether the outside centre was taller or shorter than the inside centre in France and England, although 71 per cent were smaller in the Pro14. Then again, the height of a centre can vary, as it does not carry as much significance as it does in the pack.

French rugby has largely opted to field larger outside centres in the modern era, with players like Aurelien Rougerie, Mathieu Bastareaud and Virimi Vakatawa wearing the shirt this century to devastating effect. So in this respect, the Top 14 still maintains that custom, whereas teams elsewhere tend to deploy more colossal No.12s.

With that in mind, there were still five players in England on this weekend that weighed more than the heaviest three players in France, Stade Français’ Gaël Fickou, Bayonne’s Alofa Alofa, and ASM Clermont Auvergne’s Isaia Toeava, all of whom were 100kg (15st11lb), as well as one that weighed the same. Leicester Tigers’ Jaco Taute, was the heaviest across England, and joint heaviest in Europe, at 108kg (17st).

Similarly, there were five players in England that were taller than Fickou, who, at 1m90 (6’3”), was the tallest player in France, with London Irish’s Curtis Rona being the tallest in Europe at 1m95 (6’5”).
This goes to show that while the Top 14 does play larger outside centres, they are still dwarfed when compared to those in England. This may surprise some given the physical nature of the French league up front.

While the packs in the Top 14 traditionally are more formidable physically than those in the Pro14, the two leagues are much more equal in the midfield. Meanwhile, the Premiership takes on the mantle of being the physically imposing league in the centres, with their players out-matching their counterparts elsewhere in Europe.

*stats are taken from each club’s website.

TOP 14

Agen: Johann Sadie- 1m88 (6’2”)/ 96kg (15st2lb)
Lyon: Pierre-Louis Barassi- 1m88 (6’2”)/ 91kg (15st5lb)

Racing 92: Virimi Vakatawa- 1m86 (6’1”)/ 92kg (14st7lb)
ASM Clermont Auvergne: Isaia Toeava- 1m81 (5’11”)/ 100kg (15st11lb)

Bordeaux-Begles: Jean-Baptiste Dubié- 1m81 (5’11”)/ 86kg (13st8lb)
Bayonne: Alofa Alofa- 1m85 (6’1”)/ 100kg (15lb11lb)

Montpellier: Arthur Vincent- 1m82 (6’0”)/ 90kg (14st2lb)
Brive: Guillaume Galletier- 1m78 (5’10”)/ 89kg (14st)

Pau: Alexandre Dumoulin- 1m89 (6’2”)/ 97kg (15st4lb)
La Rochelle: Geoffrey Doumayrou- 1m86 (6’1”)/ 92kg )14st7lb)

Toulon: Julien Hériteau- 1m82 (6’0”)/ 96kg (15st2lb)
Castres: Thomas Combezou- 1m82 (6’0”)/ 93kg (14st9lb)

Stade Francais: Gaël Fickou- 1m90 (6’3”)/ 100kg (15st11lb)
Toulouse: Sofiane Guitoune- 1m84 (6’0”)/ 97kg (15st4lb)

Average: 1m84 (6’0”)/ 94kg (14st11lb)

PREMIERSHIP

Sale Sharks: Sam James- 1m93 (6’4”)/ 98kg (15st6lb)
Harlequins: Cadan Murley- 1m75 (5’9”)/ 96kg (15st2lb)

Saracens: Alex Lozowski- 1m84 (6’0”)/ 90kg (14st2lb)
Worcester Warriors: Ashley Beck- 1m91 (6’3”)/ 100kg (15st11lb)

Gloucester: Chris Harris- 1m88 (6’2”)/ 104kg (16st5lb)
Bath: Jonathan Joseph- 1m83 (6’0”)/ 91kg (15st5lb)

Leicester Tigers: Jaco Taute- 1m91 (6’3”)/ 108kg (17st)
Bristol Bears: Piers O’Connor- 1m85 (6’1”)/ 102kg (16st1lb)

Wasps: Malakai Fekitoa- 1m87 (6’2”)/ 99kg (15st8lb)
Northampton Saints: Rory Hutchinson- 1m81 (5’11”)/ 95kg (14st13lb)

London Irish: Curtis Rona- 1m95 (6’5”)/ 101kg (16st)
Exeter Chiefs: Ollie Devoto- 1m92 (6’4”)/ 101kg (16st)

Average: 1m87 (6’2”)/ 99kg (15st8lb)

PRO 14

Ulster: Luke Marshall- 1m80 (5’11”)/ 97kg (15st4lb)
Munster: Sam Arnold- 1m83 (6’0”)/ 95kg (14st13lb)

Cardiff Blues: Rey Lee-Lo- 1m80 (5’11”)/ 90kg (14st2lb)
Scarlets: Steffan Hughes- 1m78 (5’10”)/ 83kg (13st1lb)

Edinburgh: James Johnstone- 1m78 (5’10”)/ 90kg (14st2lb)
Southern Kings: Sibusiso Sithole- 1m80 (5’11”)/ 107kg (17st)

Leinster: Garry Ringrose- 1m91 (6’3”)/ 94kg (14st11lb)
Connacht: Kyle Godwin- 1m87 (6’2”)/ 93kg (14st9lb)

Zebre: Giulio Bisegni- 1m80 (5’11”)/ 88kg (13st2lb)
Cheetahs: William Small-Smith- 1m84 (6’0”)/ 94kg (14st11lb)

Dragons: Tyler Morgan- 1m86m (6’1”)/ 104kg (16st5lb)
Ospreys: Tiaan Thomas-Wheeler- 1m90 (6’3”)/ 98kg (15st6lb)

Benetton Treviso: Iliesa Ratuva- 1m86 (6’1”)/ 100kg (15st11lb)
Glasgow Warriors: Nick Grigg- 1m75 (5’9”)/ 89kg (14st)

Average: 1m83 (6’0”)/ 94kg (14st11lb)

ADVERTISEMENT

LIVE

{{item.title}}

Trending on RugbyPass

Comments

0 Comments
Be the first to comment...

Join free and tell us what you really think!

Sign up for free
ADVERTISEMENT

Latest Features

Comments on RugbyPass

J
JW 14 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

143 Go to comments
LONG READ
LONG READ Return of 30-something brigade provides welcome tonic for Wales Return of 30-something brigade provides welcome tonic for Wales
Search