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The best and worst case scenario for Retallick's recovery

Brodie Retallick

NZ Herald

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A devastating shoulder injury on Saturday put big question marks over All Black Brodie Retallick’s potential to play in the Rugby World Cup.

But following scans which confirmed no fracture or joint damage, sports physician Mark Fulcher says it’s not time for Kiwi rugby fans to panic.

“It’s a bummer but I don’t think the nation should be panicking too much,” Fulcher told the Herald.

“From the sounds of things, I’m sure he’ll be at the World Cup.”

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Retallick went down with a dislocated shoulder after being on the receiving end of a ruck cleanout an hour into the 16-all draw against the Springboks at Westpac Stadium last night.

Speaking broadly on the injury, Fulcher was confident that if all went to plan, it was likely Retallick would recover just in time for All Blacks‘ first pool game against South Africa in Yokohama on September 21.

“If I was managing him, I’d be feeling quite optimistic about getting him to the World Cup,” Fulcher said.

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Brodie Retallick

“He’s obviously a key player so I can imagine they’ll be giving him every opportunity to recover.

“Best case scenario, he’ll progressively rehabilitate his shoulder over the next six weeks and potentially it will never be a problem for him ever again and that wouldn’t be an unrealistic scenario.

“I guess the worst case scenario would be that he’ll have further symptoms and won’t make the World Cup … but it sounds like there are no structural problems.”

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With the injury not directly related to fatigue, Fulcher said should Retallick recover in time, game time at the World Cup won’t be an issue either.

“If you tear a hamstring, for example, there are a lot of things around load. The more you do, the more fatigued you are and the more likely you are to a recurrent,” he explained.

“Although there is a degree to that being true for this injury, it is probably more about impact and collision.

“He’ll obviously be doing a lot of rehabilitation and preventative work and taping and bracing the shoulder to reduce the risk of further instability.”

Earlier, All Blacks coach Steve Hansen said he too was optimistic over Retallick’s return.

“There’s a good possibility he could make the World Cup,” Hansen said.

“There’s no timeline yet as to when he’ll return to play, but hopefully he’ll be available.”

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Flankly 28 minutes ago
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Nick - thanks for another good piece.


It’s remarkable that Matt Williams gets so upset about Bomb Squad tactics. He’s not just making recommendations, but getting all sweaty about bench splits. But it’s not really about bench splits. He just does not like forwards, and their role in the game.


I thought this quote was telling:

What about Kitshoff, what happened to his spine in South Africa? Do we know if that is as a result of the scrummaging they are put through?

Ouch. So we are really on a program of reducing scrummaging to reduce spinal injuries? That’s the mission? And based on the statistically significant dataset of one case, a case in which he openly admits that he does not have the details. Regardless, if his goal is to reduce spinal injuries for prop forwards then arguing about bench splits seems like an odd place to start.


It’s not just spinal injuries that he cares about. The risk of paralysis is an important issue, and he raises this too:

I’m a bit of a lone voice but, because of my club-mate Grant Harper (ex-Western Suburbs prop who was paralysed after a collapsed scrum), I’m not shutting up on it.

Injuries are horrible, and paralysis is truly awful. We should absolutely take it very seriously, and diligently implement whatever safety protocols and education programs we can to minimize these things. But we don’t ban skydiving or hang gliding, or crossing the road. Though Williams is not looking to ban rugby, he does seem to be intent on reducing the role of forwards in the game, based on entirely anecdotal data.


It’s hard to tell what it’s all about. He makes this supposed safety case and says that no-one in his echo chamber disagrees with him:

Every time I go out, old forwards and old props go up to me and they say, ‘you’re right’. I’ve never had anyone, apart from a few South Africans – because it’s good for South Africa – say it’s rubbish.

It’s weird that “old props” are hanging around his front door and lobbying him, or maybe he just doesn’t “go out” much. Could it be that all of the hand-wringing about bench splits and scrummaging injuries is really a proxy for something else? Is it possible his issue is not about safety at all?


Well, that is what it seems. For me the truth is in this comment:

Can Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Australia and Argentina compete against South Africa, New Zealand and France if that’s the way the game goes? The answer to that is no.

So, this is the real issue for him. The Bomb Squad tactic is a really good one, and you have to be really good to play against it. Or you should try to de-power it by banning it, wailing about injuries that it supposedly causes (it doesn’t) and clutching at anecdotal straws to make your case.


The above quote is an insult to the five countries named, and it also suggests that no-one is going to be smart enough to come up with a game plan that neutralizes the bomb squad or turns it to a relative weakness. Williams is just a noisy fan looking to change the laws to favor his team and his personal tastes.


I agree with your conclusions. This Rassie approach is far from being unfair to backs. Not only does it favor fleet-footed and versatile “skills players” in the double-digit positions, but each individual gets more game time in any given match.


Whenever I go out I get exactly zero “old backs” coming up to me and complaining about the Bomb Squad tactic.


Bravo, Rassie.

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