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'The biggest issue out of it wasn't time wasting': Ian Foster delivers final take on Foley-Raynal saga

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All Blacks head coach Ian Foster has clarified his position around the officiating in last week’s test, explaining that he likes the way Mathieu Raynal makes strong calls whether right or wrong.

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Mathieu Raynal’s late game call to penalise Wallabies flyhalf Bernard Foley for taking too long to make a clearing kick has been a hotly debated topic in the aftermath of the All Blacks 39-37 win in Melbourne.

Foster said that referees are under the microscope more than ever before but his point last week was the onus is on the players to listen to those in charge of applying the rules.

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“My response after the game was more around players have got to learn to listen to referees,” Foster explained when queried about his post-match comments.

“It’s a cliche to say ‘there is overall problems with the officiating’, I think you have to be really specific.

“It’s tough on refs now, they are under a lot of scrutiny.

“When people perceive that decisions have cost games, then they get put under the microscope, don’t they? Last week’s [game] has created an issue that has been pretty well talked about.”

The All Blacks review and submit any interpretation matters they want clarified like any other test side said Foster, but they understand that the referees are working hard to get things right ahead of the next World Cup.

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“From our perspective, we’ve gone through a normal process. There’s always things that we would like to see differently in a test match.

“We’ve presented our case in that space too, as we normally would but overall what I liked about Mathieu last week is he backed himself.

“He’s strong and if he sees a decision, he makes a decision. Does it mean everything is right? Not really. That goes the same with all of us, I guess.

“They are working hard behind the scenes to get things right, grow experience before a World Cup, it’s a tough process for the refs.”

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On whether a precedent had been set for a wider crackdown on time wasting following last week’s contentious call, Foster said he didn’t know.

The All Blacks head coach made it clear that the issue was not with the time wasting itself, and if the players in question had listened it would not have become a problem.

“I’m not frustrated by the language [around time wasting], but I said at the time and I’ve been very consistent with this,” Foster said.

“If you look at the last decision, the biggest issue out of it wasn’t time wasting.

“The biggest issue is that when a ref gives you clear instructions, at some point you’ve got to listen to him.

“Otherwise, what’s the point of having a referee out there? And that was my main point.

“Time wasting, every team will find ways to slow momentum down at certain times.

“If there is a move by World Rugby to speed up the game and have less time wasting, well we are behind that 100 per cent because that’s what we want.”

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


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