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The Bledisloe Cup was a better series when the Wallabies held it

All Blacks players celebrate victory following the The Rugby Championship & Bledisloe Cup match between the Australia Wallabies and the New Zealand All Blacks at Melbourne Cricket Ground on July 29, 2023 in Melbourne, Australia. (Photo by Morgan Hancock/Getty Images)

I’ve been watching Bledisloe Cup rugby since 1980.

When I think back on the intervening years, I can say without reservation that the series’ I enjoyed most were when Australia was the holder. Or, at the very least, a legitimate threat to claim the cup.
Bledisloe Cup rugby is better when the Wallabies win it.

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Man, there were generations of Australian players and coaches that I absolutely loathed. Now, I couldn’t care less about them.

They’re not a threat and therefore not worthy of the strong, often irrational, feelings I had towards them as a boy and younger man.

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I reckon I was just about the last person left in the old Sydney Football Stadium, after the Wallabies won 19-14 there in 1998. I think it was the All Blacks’ fifth loss in a row that season, from memory.

I just couldn’t believe New Zealand had been beaten at the death and I eventually had to be dragged disconsolate into the night, long after the players had left the field.

The Wallabies won the Rugby World Cup the following year, to underline the superiority they enjoyed at the time.

I’m less invested in the outcome of this year’s matches, mostly because I assume they won’t be contests.

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In terms of wins and losses there might be nothing between the All Blacks and Wallabies this season but, in reality, I suspect we’ll see that one side is clearly better than the other.

That disappoints me for a couple of reasons.

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First, as I alluded to, professional sport only matters when the result means something.

In that period between 1998 and 2002, when Australia were last Bledisloe Cup holders, the games were often phenomenal. Fans, players, coaches, media and administrators were utterly immersed in every kick of the ball.

Winning was everything and, try as they might, a succession of All Black teams weren’t good enough to wrest back the cup.

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I miss those days very much, which is why I believe the Bledisloe Cup would be enhanced by Australia holding it again.

Second, retaining it this time will only paper over the evident cracks in the current All Blacks.

It’s easy to write off this season’s defeat to Argentina as a bad 30 minutes or dismiss losses to South Africa as respectable, even encouraging performances away from home against the World Cup holders.

But a good portion of this All Blacks team has been losing games for years now, without any obvious repercussions for them or changes to the way they try to play.

It will be easy – and also extremely lazy – to beat Australia comfortably in this Bledisloe Cup series and assume that everything’s hunky dory.

To proclaim lessons have been learned and that the methods of this new coaching staff are starting to take effect.

Defeat to the Wallabies, however, would necessitate serious scrutiny and soul searching. It might even end one or two careers.

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Ultimately, I think that would be a good thing.

Being an All Black doesn’t appear to be an uncomfortable occupation. In fact it looks like quite a cushy one, where the pay’s good, scrutiny limited and there’s paid sabbaticals to Japan, France or Ireland if you fancy it.

There’s no jeopardy for poor performances, because everyone’s become accustomed to you losing anyway and only the fringe guys ever get dropped.

But such is New Zealand’s collective disregard for Australian rugby at all levels, that the surrender of the Bledisloe Cup to this rather embarrassing Wallabies side might end the armchair ride that many All Blacks appear to be enjoying.

I certainly hope so.

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LW 93 days ago

This author is such a numpty. No substance about rugby ever just topics to annoy people

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DC 94 days ago

no it wasnt ask john hart how he felt losing 5 in a row and tane randell as well losing to australia

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Jmann 93 days ago

are they still alive?

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B 94 days ago

Well it sucked in the year 2000 when John Eals converted the penalty and the Wallabies retained the Bledisloe Cup for the next 3 years.


I guess 21 years on it must be bloody torture for the Wallabies and fans to see the All Blacks still polishing it.


Unless theres a dramatic turn around in the performance of either team, balance will see the current holders put it back in the display cabinet.

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DS 94 days ago

For quite a period Aust had the Bledisloe and the W Cup. They were outstanding with some of the best ever rugby players. A highly competitive Australia is essential for SH rugby.

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Cheers 94 days ago

Like Martin Luther King I too have a dream, That Australia never get there lil convict fingers on that trophy ever again

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Forward pass 94 days ago

And Rugbypass was a better media source when Hamish Bidwell didnt write such crap. How one man can write so angry at his own team is baffling.

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JW 4 hours ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

Yep, that's exactly what I want.

Glasgow won the URC and Edinburgh finished 16th, but Scotland won the six nations, Edinburgh would qualify for the Champions Cup under your system.

It's 'or'. If Glasgow won the URC or Scotland won the six nations. If one of those happens I believe it will (or should) be because the league is in a strong place, and that if a Scotland side can do that, there next best club team should be allowed to reach for the same and that would better serve the advancement of the game.


Now, of course picking a two team league like Scotland is the extreme case of your argument, but I'm happy for you to make it. First, Edinbourgh are a good mid table team, so they are deserving, as my concept would have predicted, of the opportunity to show can step up. Second, you can't be making a serious case that Gloucester are better based on beating them, surely. You need to read Nicks latest article on SA for a current perspective on road teams in the EPCR. Christ, you can even follow Gloucester and look at the team they put out the following week to know that those games are meaningless.


More importantly, third. Glasgow are in a league/pool with Italy, So the next team to be given a spot in my technically imperfect concept would be Benneton. To be fair to my idea that's still in it's infancy, I haven't given any thought to those 'two team' leagues/countries yet, and I'm not about to 😋

They would be arguably worse if they didn't win the Challenge Cup.

Incorrect. You aren't obviously familiar with knockout football Finn, it's a 'one off' game. But in any case, that's not your argument. You're trying to suggest they're not better than the fourth ranked team in the Challenge Cup that hasn't already qualified in their own league, so that could be including quarter finalists. I have already given you an example of a team that is the first to get knocked out by the champions not getting a fair ranking to a team that loses to one of the worst of the semi final teams (for example).

Sharks are better

There is just so much wrong with your view here. First, the team that you are knocking out for this, are the Stormers, who weren't even in the Challenge Cup. They were the 7th ranked team in the Champions Cup. I've also already said there is good precedent to allow someone outside the league table who was heavily impacted early in the season by injury to get through by winning Challenge Cup. You've also lost the argument that Sharks qualify as the third (their two best are in my league qualification system) South African team (because a SAn team won the CC, it just happened to be them) in my system. I'm doubt that's the last of reasons to be found either.


Your system doesn't account for performance or changes in their domestic leagues models, and rely's heavily on an imperfect and less effective 'winner takes all' model.

Giving more incentives to do well in the Challenge Cup will make people take it more seriously. My system does that and yours doesn't.

No your systems doesn't. Not all the time/circumstances. You literally just quoted me describing how they aren't going to care about Challenge Cup if they are already qualifying through league performance. They are also not going to hinder their chance at high seed in the league and knockout matches, for the pointless prestige of the Challenge Cup.


My idea fixes this by the suggesting that say a South African or Irish side would actually still have some desire to win one of their own sides a qualification spot if they win the Challenge Cup though. I'll admit, its not the strongest incentive, but it is better than your nothing. I repeat though, if your not balance entries, or just my assignment, then obviously winning the Challenge Cup should get you through, but your idea of 4th place getting in a 20 team EPCR? Cant you see the difference lol


Not even going to bother finishing that last paragraph. 8 of 10 is not an equal share.

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