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The Bok verdict on Steve Borthwick's potential assistant Norman Laker

Norman Laker is reportedly on Steve Borthwick's England shortlist (Photo by Getty Images)

England head coach Steve Borthwick is drawing closer to finding a replacement for departing defence coach Felix Jones, with reports emerging of a three-man shortlist. Stade Francais head coach Paul Gustard, Oyonnax head coach Joe El-Abd and Stormers defence coach Norman Laker are the three that have emerged as Jones’ potential successors.

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Of the three, Laker possibly has the most in common with Jones having also worked with Jacques Nienaber, the architect of the defensive structure adopted by England through the Irishman.

Laker and Nienaber previously worked together at Western Province, and were in close communication when the latter started coaching South Africa. Laker even brought Nienaber into his Stormers camp to ensure club and country were effectively singing from the same hymn sheet.

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Three former Western Province players, Hanyani Shimange, Jean de Villiers and Schalk Burger, have now given their view on the potential appointment on the latest episode of RugbyPass TV’s Boks Office.

Though the trio may not have worked with Laker extensively, they have witnessed the defensive structure he has implemented, which Burger said “gives you an idea of how Steve wants to defend”.

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Shimange backed Laker to strengthen England’s defence, while de Villiers conversely had some reservations about the move. “What has happened is Felix has come with this rush defence,” Shimange said.

“Norman has worked extensively with Felix and with Jacques more than anything else. Norman started when Jacques was at the Stormers, so it is obviously the ability to replicate that rush defence that England got used to towards the end of the internationals.

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“Would he strengthen the defensive system? Yes. Would he do a good job? Yes. He might not leave, but it’s a nice thing to know someone is watching.”

The former Springboks centre’s scepticism is regarding a move to a different rugby culture, and how that can be problematic in terms of getting your message across.

He said: “The thing with Norman, let’s say he goes to England, it’s always interesting to see how he adapts culturally. Technicals and coaching are one thing, getting your message across with guys from other nationalities is another, sometimes, as they say it’s lost in translation.”

Burger added: “You still want to know what happened there to Felix. He went across as a defence coach, we all knew him as an attack coach. He is a great coach either way, he will be able to convert.

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“If you look at the names on the list, it gives you an idea of how Steve wants to defend. You have got to have line speed, you have got to be aggressive. You want to defend to get the ball back. That is why you get someone that does the rush, puts pressure on other sides. You want them to make errors.”

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FC 61 days ago

Why doesn't Borthwick just ASK Rassie over for a week to come fix English rugby and stop all this beating about the bush?

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JW 1 hour ago
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Yeah nar I pretty much agree with that sentiment, wasn't just about the lineout though.


Yeah, I think it's the future of SR, even TRC. Graham above just now posting about how good a night it was with a dbl header of ENGvSA and NZvFrance, and now I don't want to kick SA or Argentina out of TRC but it would be great if in this next of the woods 2 more top teams could come in to create more of these sort of nights (for rugby's appeal). Often Arg and SA and both travel here and you get those games but more often doesn't work out right.


Obviously a long way off but USA and Japan are the obvious two. First thing we need to do is get Eddie Jones kicked out of Japan so they can start improving again and then get a couple of US teams in SRP (even if one its just a US based and augmented Jaguares).


It will start off the whole conferences are crap debate again (which I will continue to argue vehemently against), but imagine a 6 team Pacific conference, Tokyo Sunwolves (drafted from Tokyo JRLO teams), Tokyo All Stars (made up of best remaining foreign players and overseas drafts), ALL Nihon (best of local non Tokyo based talent, inc China/Korea etc, with mainland Japan), a could of West Coast american franchises and perhaps a second self PI driven Hawai'i based team, or Jagaures. So I see a short NFL like 3 or 4 month comp as fitting best, maybe not even a full round, NZvAUSvPAC, all games taking place within a 6hr window. Model for NZ will definitely still require a competitive and funded NPC!


On the Crusaders, I liked last years ending with Grace on the bench (ovbiously form dependent but thats how it ended) and Lio-Willie at 8. I could have Blackadder trying to be a 7 but think balance will be used with him at 6 and Kellow as 7. Scott Barrett is an international 6 sized player. It is just NZ style/model that pushes him into the tight, I reckon he'd be a great loose player, and saders have Strange and Cahill as bigger players (plus that change could draw someone like Darry back). Same with Haig now, hes not grown yet but Barrett hight and been playing 6, now that the Highlanders have only chosen two locks he'll be playing lock, and that is going to change his growth trajectory massively, rather than seeing him grow like an International 6.

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Tom 1 hour ago
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Interesting post. I realise that try was down to Marcus Smith not Slade, this is why I mentioned that England's attack is completely reliant on Smith working miracles. Just wanted to highlight that Slade's little touch was classy and most English players would have cocked it up. Earl has gas, he's very athletic but Underhill is nailed on at 7 in my eyes though. They both need to be on the pitch so we need a tall 6 or 8 to complement them which we have in CCS and potentially Ollie Chessum. We also have young Henry Pollock who may be the 7 by the world cup.


The whole attack needs an overhaul but Richard Wigglesworth our attack coach was a very limited scrum half who excelled at box kicking and had no running game. Spent most of his career with Saracens who mauled, defended and set pieced their way to victory.... Which might have been ok if Felix Jones hadn't quit and been replaced by a guy who coaches Oyonnax who have one of the worst defences in the French 2nd division. I'm not too emotionally invested in England right now because this coaching setup isn't capable of winning anything.


England had no attack when they were winning under Eddie either. They battered teams with huge dominant tackles and won from pressure. The last time England had any creativity in attack was the Stuart Lancaster/Mike Catt era. They played some fantastic attacking rugby but results were mediocre, lots of 2nd place finishes in the 6N although it felt like we were building something special until we got brutally dumped out of our home world cup in the pool stage.

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JW 2 hours ago
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As has been the way all year, and for all England's play I can remember. I missed a lot of the better years under Eddie though.


Lets have a look at the LQB for the last few games... 41% under 3 sec compared to 56% last week, 47% in the game you felt England best in against NZ, and 56 against Ireland.


That was my impression as well. Dunno if that is a lack of good counterattack ball from the D, forward dominance (Post Contact Meters stats reversed yesterday compared to that fast Ireland game), or some Borthwick scheme, but I think that has been highlighted as Englands best point of difference this year with their attack, more particularly how they target using it in certain areas. So depending on how you look at it, not necessarily the individual players.


You seem to be falling into the same trap as NZs supporters when it comes to Damien McKenzie. That play you highlight Slade in wasn't one of those LQB situations from memory, that was all on the brilliance of Smith. Sure, Slade did his job in that situation, but Smith far exceeded his (though I understand it was a move Sleightholme was calling for). But yeah, it's not always going to be on a platter from your 10 and NZ have been missing that Slade line, in your example, more often than not too. When you go back to Furbank and Feyi-Waboso returns you'll have that threat again. Just need to generate that ball, wait for some of these next Gen forwards to come through etc, the props and injured 6 coming back to the bench. I don't think you can put Earl back to 7, unless he spends the next two years speeding up (which might be good for him because he's getting beat by speed like he's not used to not having his own speed to react anymore).

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