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The curious ‘lot of positives’ Lawes verdict on latest England loss

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Stand-in England skipper Courtney Lawes has played down his team’s latest defeat, suggesting there were a lot of positives in their 10-29 loss to Ireland in Dublin.

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The English lost out five-one on the try count against a sluggish Irish XV whose first-choice picks were getting their first run of the Summer Nations Series.

In contrast, three of England’s XV were getting their third successive starts this month and eight more were getting their second start.

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That suggested they should be a step further down the road than Ireland in being match sharp for the finals in France, but they weren’t – a shortcoming exacerbated by them suffering a third red card in four games.

Lawes was named in an unchanged back row of Ben Earl and Billy Vunipola, but that combination came unstuck with the dismissal of Vunipola, initially via a 53rd-minute yellow card.

Points Flow Chart

Ireland win +19
Time in lead
73
Mins in lead
4
91%
% Of Game In Lead
5%
37%
Possession Last 10 min
63%
7
Points Last 10 min
7

That sanction was soon upgraded to red by the TMO bunker and England didn’t have the scramble defence to shut the door, losing that 27-minute period of the match a man down by three tries to one – all three tries scored by wingers who had run-ins in space thanks to sweet long looping passes that exploited the space out wide.

England were only 3-7 behind for the majority of the opening half but rather than have the blueprint to go at a second-gear Ireland and pose some difficult questions, they didn’t have the attacking blueprint to press for the lead. Lawes though insisted there were positives… without specifically naming them.

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“It’s very disappointing,” he began, sitting alongside Steve Borthwick following a loss that was the fifth L for England in their eight outings under their new head coach.

“The thing is if we just get certain things right in our game it’s very different, it’s a very different game and they are all things that we can control but we have to be better at controlling them.

“There is a lot of positives which is great. If we tidy up a couple of areas we will be a much different team and we have proved we can hang with the best as long as we get them right. It doesn’t make it any less disappointing that we didn’t get it right today.”

If his “lots of positives” verdict sounded sketchy, what was more encouraging was his promise that England won’t give up searching for improvements with the start of their Rugby World Cup campaign now less than three weeks away.

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“We won’t give up, we will relentlessly pursue the betterment of our team. That’s all we can do.”

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James 457 days ago

That'll be the same Lawes who claimed on Friday that they were afraid of peaking too early !

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Mark 459 days ago

Lawes joining his head coach in the room named "Delusional bullshit".
This was the poorest display thus far in Englands dire warm up series.
The abject lack of ambition coupled with the continuing inability to even carry out the most basic kick to compete game plan has left this team with nowhere to go.

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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