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The eight England changes I want to see versus Ireland – Andy Goode

England's Fin Smith, George Furbank and Immanuel Feyi-Waboso (Photo by Dan Mullan/The RFU Collection via Getty Images)

Steve Borthwick has to roll the dice with his selection and game plan for Ireland on March 9 or he is in danger of going through the whole Guinness Six Nations having learned next to nothing.

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Of course, a new defensive system is bedding in under Felix Jones and there are teething problems but we are still not seeing anywhere near enough in attack and some players seem to be hanging on just to win a few more caps.

Joe Marler, Dan Cole, Elliot Daly and George Ford all have a huge number of caps and have had long international careers, but I’m not sure they are offering outstanding leadership and you can’t just wait for them to exit stage left on their own terms.

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    Cole is 37 in May, Marler is unlikely to be around at the next World Cup and might decide this summer’s tour to Japan and New Zealand isn’t for him, and the same question marks that have always surrounded Ford are still there.

    There are wingers in better form than Daly at the moment and I’m not sure what we are learning by picking him for these last two games of this Six Nations. The 37-year-old Danny Care will also win his 100th cap against Ireland but he isn’t going to be around much longer.

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    England have lost three of their five games in the last three straight tournaments and nobody wants that to happen again, but I’d rather suffer that fate while learning something and blooding a few new faces than stick with the status quo and possibly lose narrowly to Ireland and France anyway.

    I’m not advocating chucking the ball around against the Irish; that would be suicide. But you have to put your money where your mouth is if you are going to talk about playing an exciting brand of rugby, that starts with the selection and I would be making eight changes to the XV from round three.

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    The George Furbank call didn’t pay off completely against Scotland but he scored a try and what he can offer in attack means he deserves a bit of a run in the side, but I would be changing the rest of the back three.

    Immanuel Feyi-Waboso showed what he can do off the bench in Edinburgh. He has that bit of X-factor that others don’t have so he deserves to start, and it’s about time that Cadan Murley got a look in.

    The Harlequins player is a natural-born finisher. I wouldn’t be picking him because he scored a hat-trick against Portugal reserves but I just think a chance at Test level is long overdue and now is as good a time as any.

    If you are picking that back three, then Tommy Freeman has to start at outside centre. Henry Slade hasn’t done too much wrong but Freeman has played in the midfield a fair bit for Northampton this season and I’d start him alongside Ollie Lawrence.

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    That is a backline that would offer a lot of attacking threat and the key to unleashing it is the return to fitness of Marcus Smith and Alex Mitchell, hopefully both in time to face the reigning Grand Slam champions.

    In fairness to Borthwick, I’m sure Smith would have been picked for round one if he had been fit but the pace and creativity that pairing offer is badly needed right now. If Smith isn’t fit, I’d start his namesake Fin.

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    Clearly, it’s tough for any of those half-backs to effect the game too much if they are going backwards and George Martin has to start as he has that point of difference in terms of the aggression and the big impacts he can have on the game.

    I’m sure Maro Itoje isn’t going to be dropped but I’d start Martin together with his Leicester teammate Ollie Chessum in the second row, and picking Chandler Cunningham-South, Ben Earl and Zach Mercer in the back row would give England more big ball carriers.

    Earl has been England’s standout player and is the top carrier in this Six Nations, but he is even better at openside than at No8. I know Mercer isn’t in the squad but he is the best we have got in that position.

    You don’t win the Top 14 player of the year in a league that is the land of the giants unless you are some player. He isn’t the same type of player as Caelan Doris but if you look at what the Ireland forwards do in terms of their footwork and work in contact, Mercer is probably about as close as England have to that.

    Dan Sheehan is pretty big and Joe McCarthy is an absolute monster in terms of the way he plays as well as his size but apart from them, Ireland’s forwards aren’t all massive humans compared to others in their position but they all punch above their weight.

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    England can play the last two games of this Six Nations with the same players and maybe get a result but most likely just lose and not be embarrassed as they are going to be second favourites going into both games. That would be an opportunity missed.

    I honestly don’t see what you stand to lose from giving an additional few players a taste of the action, exposure against two of the best teams in the world in recent years, and a chance to impress ahead of a pivotal summer tour in terms of building for the future.

    England’s chance of winning the Six Nations, if you thought they had one, has realistically gone even if they do pull off an upset and beat Ireland at Twickenham. A perfect opportunity to learn a lot more has presented itself and Borthwick has to grasp that with both hands.

    My England XV to face Ireland
    15. George Furbank
    14. Immanuel Feyi-Waboso
    13. Tommy Freeman
    12. Ollie Lawrence
    11. Cadan Murley
    10. Marcus Smith
    9. Alex Mitchell
    1. Ellis Genge
    2. Jamie George (capt)
    3. Will Stuart
    4. Ollie Chessum
    5. George Martin
    6. Chandler Cunningham-South
    7. Ben Earl
    8. Zach Mercer

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    Clive 509 days ago

    Truly laughable, Gunge and Stuart will get biffed in the tight, George does nowt in the loose, Mercer ain’t ever gonna play under Borethick, Murley??? Mitchell has been meh but Care and Spencer are meh too. We lost to Scotland because we coughed up the ball, mostly down to Ford, Lawrence and Furballs, Henry was the best back by far getting just 2 passes in 80 mins. Tbf Goode’s BS is irrelevant, with Borethick in charge the best we can hope for is a boring narrow defeat.

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    Henrik 510 days ago

    After the last game, is Ollie Lawrence the right pick? Who would be on your bench? Barbary before Mercer, and leaving out Itoje, giving up a lot of experience.

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    Paul 511 days ago

    England’s problem is inside centre and it has been for a long time. It was not properly addressed under Eddie Jones who very often played Farrell at inside centre. So another inside centre was not developed. Nick Tompkins not being selected was an almighty clanger which still haunts us to this day. I wish we had managed to claim Cameron Redpath too.


    All this has been exacerbated by the lack of English inside centres in the Premiership. I really don’t believe the answer is to pick outside centres at twelve, these are very different roles. For now we need to pick the few English players who play at inside centre regularly, Fraser Dingwall, Max Ojomoh and in time Olly Hartley. I wonder how different the result would have been at Murrayfield if Nick Tompkins had been playing twelve for England.

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    Flankly 511 days ago

    Nonsense.


    Fix the defence, limit Scotland to under 17 points, and you’re probably walking away with a W. When an opposition winger scores a hat-trick like that the answer is not about fixing your attack.


    Implementing a Bok-like defense is hard. It didn’t click immediately for Nienaber in Leinster, and it hasn’t done so for Jones in England. For that matter it took time with the Boks. It’s a high risk, high reward system that requires all players to understand the game context, know their roles, and execute proactively. It takes many matches for the system to settle in, and there will be disappointing losses on the way.


    Of course selections matter, as do attacking tactics, set pieces, ruck execution etc. But if England wants consistent performances and a high win ratio the priority is to install a really stingy defense.

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    AA 511 days ago

    Agreed. The team badly needs a bit of guile and pace .

    To keep picking the same players and expect a different result is stupid.

    A fresh start was needed against Wales and Italy but hey this is international rugby. Ooooo . You cant play how you do for your clubs . This is how you do it . Steady as you go and if in doubt just give it to George to kick and all charge up the field .

    What claptrap. If you are good enough you are old enough . The coach should design a plan around the skill of his selected players .Not try to reach them a new way of playing .

    Ford will definitly play and the backs will be murdered . Àgain .

    Sorry Andy. Borthers has a tunnel vision with some players .

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    john 512 days ago

    It confuses me as to why mercer is so highly thought of yes he did well in France would not say he has been best 8 in gallaghher prem since returning Donbrant surely

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    fl 511 days ago

    I think Barbeary, Tom Willis, & Fisilau have probably been the best 3 english number 8s. Mercer & Dombrandt just behind, but to be fair Mercer did play really well in the last premiership cup game.

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    Jeff 512 days ago

    If fit Alfie Barbeary needs to be given a chance, he offers go forward that few players can offer and proved he can mix in with internationals by physically dominating Kolisi for Bath

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    fl 511 days ago

    He definately deserves to be in the squad, but I think I’d rather stick with Earl at 8

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    Tom 512 days ago

    The balance of that pack looks horrible. Ireland would brutalize them. You can't have an entire backrow of lightweight ball carriers and have Chessum in the side as well! I honestly think that team would go down by 50 points and that ain't helping no body. Probably be the only cap some of those boys would ever get!

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    DL 511 days ago

    You mean the 6ft 5 120kg Cunningham-South?

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    fl 511 days ago

    I don’t think Cunningham-South is a lightweight. Ben Earl is lighter than most 8s, but as a 7 is more than powerful enough.

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    fl 512 days ago

    lol

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    Timmyboy 512 days ago

    Saints back line

    9. Mitchell

    10. F Smith

    12. Dingwall

    13. Freeman

    15. Furbank


    Take your pick who you stick on the wings.

    Give them the green light to play heads up rugby & thats literally England’s attacking problems solved.

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    Sumkunn Tsadmiova 512 days ago

    You can see why “Rotundo” Goode was never invited to join any professional coaching set up. That team would get annihilated by Ireland. A ragbag group of international naivety, cobbled together with a generous selection of the twitterati’s hysterical favourites on the back of some Premiership highlight moment that “proves” their enduring International class. Generally performed against Newcastle (Or Chile if you put the avowed world-beater Arundell into the mix). Mick Cleary would surely approve - and there can be no worse condemnation than that…..

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    Soliloquin 1 hour ago
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    I don’t know the financial story behind the changes that were implemented, but I guess clubs started to lose money, Mourad Boudjellal won it all with Toulon, got tired and wanted to invest in football , the French national team was at its lowest with the QF humiliation in 2015 and the FFR needed to transform the model where no French talent could thrive. Interestingly enough, the JIFF rule came in during the 2009/2010 season, so before the Toulon dynasty, but it was only 40% of the players that to be from trained in French academies. But the crops came a few years later, when they passed it at the current level of 70%.

    Again, I’m not a huge fan of under 18 players being scouted and signed. I’d rather have French clubs create sub-academies in French territories like Wallis and Futuna, New Caledonia and other places that are culturally closer to RU and geographically closer to rugby lands. Mauvaka, Moefana, Taofifenua bros, Tolofua bros, Falatea - they all came to mainland after starting their rugby adventure back home.

    They’re French, they come from economically struggling areas, and rugby can help locally, instead of lumping foreign talents.

    And even though many national teams benefit from their players training and playing in France, there are cases where they could avoid trying to get them in the French national team (Tatafu).

    In other cases, I feel less shame when the country doesn’t believe in the player like in Meafou’s case.

    And there are players that never consider switching to the French national team like Niniashvili, Merckler or even Capuozzo, who is French and doesn’t really speak Italian.

    We’ll see with Jacques Willis 🥲


    But hey, it’s nothing new to Australia and NZ with PI!

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