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'The fans have been denied': Hurricanes under fire for resting All Blacks

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The Hurricanes’ decision to rest key All Blacks Tyrel Lomax, Ardie Savea and Jordie Barrett for a crunch match with the Chiefs has not gone down well with a pair of ex-All Blacks.

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The star players were rested for the New Zealand derby which the Hurricanes lost 23-12. The Chiefs were able to register a comfortable victory in the wet conditions against the understrength visitors.

Former All Black wing Jeff Wilson said the Hurricanes missed a trick as the conditions would have suited them had they been at full-strength.

Had they been able to secure a win they would have put themselves in contention to finish as the number one seed.

“Think about the game and they way it was played, the conditions were so poor,” Wilson told Sky Sport’s The Breakdown.

“To have Tyrel Lomax playing, all of a sudden your scrum and lineout clearly operates better.

“Then you bring in Ardie Savea, his ability in close in the contact parts of the game. Defensively, he’d have more effect there.

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“And you needed a big kicking game [with Jordie Barrett]. So they’ve missed their opportunity.

“If you are a Hurricanes’ fan, you’ve been potentially denied the opportunity to host not just a quarter-final but a semi-final particularly after the Brumbies lose.

“If they went on to beat the Blues and Crusaders over the next two weeks they’ve could’ve finished first and the fans have been denied that by not playing their best side.”

Ex-All Black great John Kirwan posed the bigger picture question as to whether this should be occurring in Super Rugby Pacific.

He believed that the All Blacks coaches do not want the best players missing the biggest games, particularly the Kiwi derbies.

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“It’s irrelevant because the question we need to answer is, should this happen or not,” Kirwan asked.

“I get why a coach would do it, probably overthinking stuff. I get that the players need breaks.

“But I’m pretty sure the All Blacks don’t want them to break during a derby, the best games of the year.

“That’s where you want to see your players under pressure.”

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The Hurricanes decided to rest their big names for a crucial New Zealand derby but played them against Moana Pasifika.

Although they were upset last season by the new franchise, they beat Moana 59-0 earlier this season and then 71-22 in the rematch.

Wilson said that they could have managed the rest weeks differently to ensure that the top All Blacks were available to play the toughest matches on the schedule.

“They chose to play them against Moana Pasifika, they could have managed this differently so that they were available,” Wilson said.

“They could have had them available in the biggest games.

“I think they could have won this game, the conditions closed the gap between these two teams, and with those assets I talked about, they could’ve won by thinking differently about where they might sit in three weeks’ time.”

 

 

 

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Nickers 603 days ago

That loss to the Drua messed things up for the Canes big time. Unless they can beat the Blues and the Crusaders they are destined to finish 5th or 6th, which will mean Blues or Brumbies away in their QF. They are better off resting players knowing that they now have 3 very tough games on the trot.

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Willie 604 days ago

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JW 4 hours ago
How law changes are speeding up the game - but the scrum lags behind

so what's the point?

A deep question!


First, the point would be you wouldn't have a share of those penalities if you didn't choose good scrummers right.


So having incentive to scrummaging well gives more space in the field through having less mobile players.


This balance is what we always strive to come back to being the focus of any law change right.


So to bring that back to some of the points in this article, if changing the current 'offense' structure of scrums, to say not penalizing a team that's doing their utmost to hold up the scrum (allowing play to continue even if they did finally succumb to collapsing or w/e for example), how are we going to stop that from creating a situation were a coach can prioritize the open play abilities of their tight five, sacrificing pure scrummaging, because they won't be overly punished by having a weak scrum?


But to get back on topic, yes, that balance is too skewed, the prevalence has been too much/frequent.


At the highest level, with the best referees and most capable props, it can play out appealingly well. As you go down the levels, the coaching of tactics seems to remain high, but the ability of the players to adapt and hold their scrum up against that guy boring, or the skill of the ref in determining what the cause was and which of those two to penalize, quickly degrades the quality of the contest and spectacle imo (thank good european rugby left that phase behind!)


Personally I have some very drastic changes in mind for the game that easily remedy this prpblem (as they do for all circumstances), but the scope of them is too great to bring into this context (some I have brought in were applicable), and without them I can only resolve to come up with lots of 'finicky' like those here. It is easy to understand why there is reluctance in their uptake.


I also think it is very folly of WR to try and create this 'perfect' picture of simple laws that can be used to cover all aspects of the game, like 'a game to be played on your feet' etc, and not accept it needs lots of little unique laws like these. I'd be really happy to create some arbitrary advantage for the scrum victors (similar angle to yours), like if you can make your scrum go forward, that resets the offside line from being the ball to the back foot etc, so as to create a way where your scrum wins a foot be "5 meters back" from the scrum becomes 7, or not being able to advance forward past the offisde line (attack gets a free run at you somehow, or devide the field into segments and require certain numbers to remain in the other sgements (like the 30m circle/fielders behind square requirements in cricket). If you're defending and you go forward then not just is your 9 still allowed to harras the opposition but the backline can move up from the 5m line to the scrum line or something.


Make it a real mini game, take your solutions and making them all circumstantial. Having differences between quick ball or ball held in longer, being able to go forward, or being pushed backwards, even to where the scrum stops and the ref puts his arm out in your favour. Think of like a quick tap scenario, but where theres no tap. If the defending team collapses the scrum in honest attempt (even allow the attacking side to collapse it after gong forward) the ball can be picked up (by say the eight) who can run forward without being allowed to be tackled until he's past the back of the scrum for example. It's like a little mini picture of where the defence is scrambling back onside after a quick tap was taken.


The purpose/intent (of any such gimmick) is that it's going to be so much harder to stop his momentum, and subsequent tempo, that it's a really good advantage for having such a powerful scrum. No change of play to a lineout or blowing of the whistle needed.

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