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The five 'critical' All Blacks off-contract this year - and who Sir John Kirwan is most worried about losing

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Former All Blacks great Sir John Kirwan has expressed concerns over the future of one of five headline All Blacks set to come off-contract this year.

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New Zealand Rugby [NZR] will have a busy time at the negotiating table this year as Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Damian McKenzie, Codie Taylor and Brad Weber are all in the  final years of their respective contracts.

All five of those players are widely viewed as vital figures within the All Blacks set-up, for various reasons, meaning NZR are likely to, if they haven’t already, begin negotiations over each player’s future over the coming weeks and months.

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However, speaking on The Breakdown on Monday, Kirwan revealed he is worried that Weber is at the most risk of those five players of slipping away from NZR’s payroll due to his status as New Zealand’s third-choice halfback.

The Chiefs co-captain has been a regular member of the All Blacks since 2019, four years after he made his test debut, but has largely been confined to infrequent cameo appearances off the bench due to the presence of Aaron Smith and TJ Perenara.

Smith and Perenara both signed two-year contract extensions with NZR earlier this year to keep them in New Zealand until the 2023 World Cup, and Kirwan said the deal to keep Perenara, in particular, on Kiwi shores might force Weber overseas.

The 1987 World Cup-winning All Black suggested NZR may not have the funds to pay Weber the salary he deserves as a result of Perenara’s contract extension, which came after heavy speculation that linked him to a cross-code move to the NRL.

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“I think the biggest risk is Brad Weber. I think he’s at the biggest risk because you’ve just re-signed TJ Perenara, so there’s probably not going to be enough money in the war chest for him,” Kirwan told The Breakdown.

“I mean I love this guy, I think they should sign him straight away. If they’ve decided he’s our third halfback for the World Cup, they’ll sign him, but he rightfully should get decent money.”

Kirwan added that re-signing Cane, Savea, McKenzie, Taylor and Weber should all be top priorities for NZR given what they offer to the All Blacks.

“You’ve got to sign Ardie Savea, especially with Sam Cane having a few years of injuries. If he’s All Blacks captain, you sign him.

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“Codie Taylor, he’d probably be the first one that I’d sign with Dane Coles still fantastic but getting towards the end of his career and a few injuries.

“You’ve probably got to try and sign them all, but I’d be worried about Brad Weber more than anyone.”

Former Black Ferns midfielder Hannah Porter told The Breakdown that retaining both Cane and Savea is “absolutely critical” ahead of the next World Cup, while ex-All Blacks fullback Mils Muliaina said he couldn’t rule out any of those five heading abroad.

“They actually go into the All Blacks environment and that’s a lot of IP [intellectual property] that they’ve got on their shoulders, so hopefully they can get that done. You wouldn’t possibly see them going overseas, but you just never know these days,” he said.

Furthermore, Muliaina said the loss of Cane, McKenzie and Weber would be particularly devastating for the Chiefs, who he said already have a youthful squad that needs experienced leaders within its ranks moving forward.

The 2011 World Cup winner warned that losing such vast experience could lead the Chiefs down a similar path to the Waratahs, who have endured a horror winless season following a mass exodus of seasoned veterans in recent years.

“They’ve got a very young squad and they’ve done very well through Super Rugby Aotearoa, but you lose a lot of that leadership and the Chiefs and the mana that they’ve got, that’s starting all over again,” Muliaina said.

“The last thing they want to be doing is getting to a stage where it’s similar to the Waratahs. I don’t think it will happen like that, but there’s a lot of leadership there that they would lose if those guys didn’t sign up.”

Last year’s All Blacks contracted to NZR until this year and beyond

Contracted until 2021: Codie Taylor, Alex Hodgman, Karl Tu’inukuafe, Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Akira Ioane, Brad Weber, Damian McKenzie.

Contracted until 2022: Joe Moody, Nepo Laulala Dalton Papalii, Hoskins Sotutu, Richie Mo’unga, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge, Caleb Clarke, Will Jordan, Jordie Barrett.

Contracted until 2023: Asafo Aumua, Dane Coles, Tyrel Lomax, Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Tupou Vaa’i, Cullen Grace, Shannon Frizell, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Beauden Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown.

Contracted until 2024: Ofa Tuungafasi.

Confirmed to leave New Zealand this year: Ngani Laumape (Stade Francais).

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RedWarrior 1 hour ago
Three-way race to be number one in World Rugby men's rankings

IF SA and NZ win then its 1,2,3 SA/NZ/IRL Otherwise as you were. This is largely irrelevant beyond bragging rights.


As I have pointed out elsewhere the practical use of the Rankings is to determine the seedings bands for the RWC draw. The draw takes place early 2026 and hopefully the rankings will be taken from then.


Important to be in the top 6, the top 12. (and likely the top 4).

This is because there are now 6 groups in the RWC 2027.

If you are in top 6 you are in Seeding Band 1. That means none of the other top 6 will be in your group.

Seeding Band 2 are teams from 7-12, who will have a top 6 team but no other 7-12 team.

After England's defeat by NZ there is clear water between NZ in 3rd, France in 4th and England in 5th. England are desperate for top4, ill come back and explain why later.

Lets look at Seeding Band 1 and 6th place. If you make 6th, no top 6 team is in your group, you are top dog. If you win your group, you won't be facing a top 6 team in your 1/8th final, you will be facing a weaker team. If you fail to make 6th place you WILL have a top 6 team in your group and if you don't win your group you WILL (probably) meet a top 6 in the 1/8 final. That's massive.


Its Argentina holding 6th now. Assuming England hold 5th, then its a 4 horse race for 6th. Argentina, Scotland, Italy and ...Australia. (ranked 6,7,8,9)

Australia play the Lions in NH summer 2025 they are running out of time to get up to 6th for their own RWC. They MUST make a move now. They must beat Wales and they really must beat Scotland to gain points and take points off them. Could they surprise England or Ireland? England may be the better bet but Schmidt knows Ireland so well having masterminded their downfall in France.

Another one to watch is Italy V Argentina. Italy are ambitious and they will want to start pushing the likes of Argentina. If they win this they are still in the hunt. Well worth a watch either way.


Top4: I think the top 6 will be seeded, all the way through from the draw. If thats the case then the top 4 will be seeded to avoid each other until the semi. Good for more certainty around ticket sales etc. That's a possible reason why England want in there. You're not in there you are hitting a top 4 team in a QF. That's an extra 50:50 match you can do without and avoid by being top 4.


Lets look at what Seeding bands might look like with todays rankings:


Seeding Band 1

IRE/SA/NZ/FRA/ENG/ARG

Seeding Band 2

SCO/ITA/AUS/FIJ/WAL/GEO


Sample Aussie strongest pool opponent and 1/8th final opponent if in top 6

Strongest pool opponent: FIJI

1/8 final opponent GEORGIA

Prognosis: advance to 1/4 and potentially beyond


Sample Aussie strongest pool opponent and 1/8th final opponent if NOT in top 6

Strongest pool opponent: SOUTH AFRICA

1/8 final opponent NEW ZEALAND

Prognosis: You know the prognosis


I am pretty sure this is not lost on Joe Schmidt?


Keep in mind when enjoying the matches.

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