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The fixture that Eddie Jones never wants to see England play again

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Ex-England boss Eddie Jones exited Twickenham with a Sunday evening parting shot for the RFU. During his time in charge and before he took over from Stuart Lancaster for the 2016 Six Nations, the rugby authorities would annually pencil in an end-of-season match at HQ between England and the Barbarians.

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This tradition must have privately grated with Jones because, on the back of leading the Barbarians to their 48-42 Killik Cup victory over Steve Hansen’s World XV in a 14-try thriller, he took issue with the idea of England playing the Baa-Baas.

It was June last year when such a match-up was last held, Jones’ England charges getting humiliated 52-21 by a heavily influenced Barbarians side coached by Fabien Galthie.

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That was very much an understrength England selection as the match took place on the same weekend at the Gallagher Premiership final between Saracens and Leicester, and numerous other Test squad front-liners were also absent as Jones rested them ahead of the tour to Australia.

It left his second-string England selection badly beaten and if that traditional fixture is ever to be revived against the Baa-Baas, Jones wants the RFU to start being more honest about it. “I can speak as a former England coach – I don’t think England should play the Barbarians unless it is a younger team.

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“At this time (of the year), you can never pick the England team so it shouldn’t be called England. It should be called England President’s 15 or something like that. Playing against the Barbarians is a great idea but to try to sell it as England is not honest it’s not honest.”

Jones would very much prefer the idea of Sunday’s Baa-Baas versus World XV concept being repeated given the calibre of crowd it attracted compared to your typical England game.

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“Having a festival game like this at the end of the season, when it is all done and dusted, you had 33,000 and just walking around the crowd, I reckon 80 per cent were young kids.

“If we can inspire 20 per cent of those kids to play rugby, be rugby followers, then it is such a great vehicle to drive the game forward and it was on free-to-air TV, so a lot more people have got access to watch it. This is about building almost the culture of rugby, a game like this.”

Whereas 11 months ago he was left mugged as the England boss by Galthie’s far superior Barbarians, Jones basked in his role reversal this past week and was beaming that he has now also coached the world’s most famous invitational club to a Twickenham victory with a performance that very much exited.

“We wanted to win but we wanted to play good rugby. I felt the first half the quality of rugby was exceptional from both teams. Second half with the heat both teams got a little bit tired, but the first half particularly was well worth the price of a ticket,” he said.

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What did it feel like to be coaching back at Twickenham just six months after his final match in charge of England? “Fantastic. Sun shining, no overcoat on, no scarf on, just a shirt. Fantastic. Loved it.”

As for the memories of English Rugby HQ that his return stirred, he said: “Just good ones. Seven years here, it’s the longest I have ever coached a team. I loved every minute of coaching here, loved every minute of coming back.”

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

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Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

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A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


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