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The 'horrible' England stat Steve Borthwick now owns

Steve Borthwick, the England head coach, looks dejected as he walks through the crowd at half time during the Six Nations Rugby match between England and France at Twickenham Stadium on March 11, 2023 in London, England. (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

In the wake of England’s crushing defeat at the hands of France in the Guinness Six Nations, former England flyhalf Andy Goode took to Twitter to point out the unfortunate stat head coach Steve Borthwick now owns.

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The scoreline of 53-10 was not only a demoralizing result for the players and fans, but it also set a new record for England’s biggest defeat at Twickenham. To add insult to injury, head coach Steve Borthwick, was also the captain of the team that previously held the record for England’s biggest defeat at Twickenham.

Goode tweeted: “Horrible stat alert. England’s biggest defeat at Twickenham was today 53-10. Steve Borthwick Head Coach. Previous biggest defeat at Twickenham was in 2008 v South Africa 42-6. Steve Borthwick was Captain!”

The defeat was a sobering reminder of the challenges that lie ahead for England rugby. The team had come into the Six Nations with high hopes, but their performances on the pitch have left a lot to be desired. The loss to France was particularly disappointing, as England had been expected to put up a strong fight against their rivals, despite being in the midst of a rebuilding phase post-Eddie Jones.

Goode also took a pot-shot at RFU head honcho Bill Sweeney, who become something of a bete noir for the flyhalf turned rugby pundit. “It’s alright though Bill Sweeney’s salary has gone up 55 per cent in the last 2 years to £668k whilst he’s been asleep at the wheel.”

The defeat has raised questions about the team’s coaching staff and their ability to prepare the players for top-level opposition. Borthwick, in particular, will come under fire for his role in the loss. As both the head coach and a former player who was once captain of a team that suffered a similar defeat, Borthwick is now in a unique position to understand the challenges facing the current crop of players. However, his ability to motivate and inspire the team will surely be called into question in the coming days.

“Pants down, massive skids on show, who takes 50 at home, we do,” posted Goode. “Awful day for England showing how far we’ve slipped under Eddie Jones and now how far behind we are under Borthwick.”

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The defeat to France should now serve as a wake-up call for the team and their coaching staff. Unfortunately for Borthwick and co, the first up assignment in the process is a trip to Dublin to face world no.1s Ireland in their back garden.

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Flankly 625 days ago

Borthwick dismantled the EJ defense, and has so far failed to construct a decent alternative. There is a lot of BS being sprouted about England being smashed, most of it highly distorted by a desire to present a narrative that is palatable to the speaker.

I hear EJ being blamed, and power deficits, and attitude issues, and how England is poorly conditioned, and all sorts of other nonsense.

But this is pretty simple. If you keep your opponent from scoring then you have a shot at winning. The England problem is not about why the team did not score more than 53 points, but why they allowed any team to score that many points against them.

And, for the EJ critics, please limit your criticisms to things that actually happened on his watch. Everybody understands that there can be a long tail on what a coach does, but everybody also understands that blaming past coaches is a cheap shot at someone that has no realistic way to defend themselves. The constructive conversation is about what Borthwick should be accountable for at this stage.

How does a very conventional #8 scrum move to the blindside result in an easy try? Well the #8 had two backs (#9 and #14) on his outside and two forwards (#6 and #7) on his inside. Easy 5 on 3, with an over-commit to the outside and a slow and disorganized cover (including #10 and #15). No one covered the inside support until it was too late.

That's called terrible defense. And Borthwick has had plenty of time to put a non-terrible defensive system in place. A world class defense takes longer, but a competitive defensive system that does not leak 53 points to anybody should already be in place. EJ would no doubt argue that it was already in place, and was proven over several years.

The shock about the England game was not that England could not score at will but that their opponent could. And that is 100% on the head coach.

I said, before the match, that it was not reasonable to expect a win, but that we should expect three things: 1) a solid defense, 2) a competitive forwards game, and 3) good game management. Borthwick delivered none of those.

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finn 625 days ago

To be fair though, Andy Goode probably thinks the 2008 result was Eddie Jones' fault as well

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Hellhound 38 minutes ago
'Let's not sugarcoat it': Former All Black's urgent call to protect eligibility rules

It's people like Donald who lives in the past that is holding NZ rugby back. The game has evolved, and so has the rules, the strategies and most importantly, time don't stand still. Time never stops. Either you move with it or you fall behind.


Look at SA. They were in a slump. Their best players played in leagues around the world because there was just no money or future in SA for them. Fast forward and in came Rassie. Leading from the front, he managed to get the changes he needed to affect change, a change that rocked the rugby world and now in 2024 have a team that is double WC champs. Not with players that played in SA, but with players playing their rugby in various leagues across the world.


Rugby was a dying brand, but he blew life into it being innovative, moving with the times and taking advantage of it. These same heroes are revered, plying their trade in SA or elsewhere. Every youngster have their heroes and they follow them regardless of where they are. Every kid wants to be a Bok. With all these successes, money started flowing in and the heroes started coming back to SA. Suddenly there was money in the sport again in the country.


Rassie's impact stretches far beyond just being a successful WC coach. He changed the sport forever in the country, and it's brought forth a wave of talent, the likes such as other countries can only dream off. A whole new generation of superstars are born, because these kids all want to play rugby and all of them wants to be Boks.


For years to come because of the eligibility rules being side swiped, the Boks will mostly rule the rugby world and until countries drop old foolish habits like their eligibility rules that limits them profusely, they will be stuck at the bottom, staring up at the stars they will never be able to reach. Not because they are not talented, but because they don't have the best available.


So yes, let's not sugarcoat it. Losing eligibility rules is a must for future success to growing the game in your own country. By limiting a players abilities to earn and learn from other leagues will destroy the game in your country. It's a slow poison administration that is effectively poisoning the sport in the country.


Do not cry when your team is subpar filled with amateur players trying to win against an international team like the Boks. The Boks doesn't stay stagnant with strategies that won them 2 WC's, they keep evolving. Rassie does not mind players going and playing in leagues across the world because they spend the money in evolving those players to future stars, money SARU saves and can reinvest in the school, university and club rugby, thus saving hundreds of millions. Young stars that can light up the world stage, already known by other fans and ready to switch and light up the World stage and bring more glory to their country, even though they are not playing in the country.


Fools like Donald is chasing fools gold and is strangling NZ rugby and is stopping them from evolving. Others will follow SA, seeing how they keep evolving and keep getting stronger, with a pool of stars getting bigger and bigger, where they can start to choose more and more teams that could compete and beat the best, even though they are seen as the 3rd or 4th or 5th stringers in SA. The Boks can put out at least 3 teams that can beat any team in the world and all 3 would be top 10 in the world. That is not bragging, just mere facts.

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