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The Junior Boks explanation for their heavy defeat to Argentina

South Africa U20s warm up before their loss to Argentina (Photo by Nic Bothma/World Rugby)

Bafana Nhleko doesn’t do sour grapes. Prior to climbing the stairs to front the media after South Africa had been thrashed 12-31 by Argentina at the World Rugby U20 Championship, he made a point of walking further along the corridor to knock on the door of the South Americans and enter their dressing room to say well done.

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The Junior Boks had won the previous two games they had played against the Argentinians. Now, with the tables drastically turned, the South African age-grade coach felt compelled to acknowledge the effort put in by the opposition.

“We played them last year and beat them. We played them again this year and beat them. I have gotten to know their coaches quite a bit and the management team,” he explained to RugbyPass before jumping on the bus back into Cape Town with the heavy rain continuing to fall.

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“You can see what it means to them, they lost the first game (to England) and you have got to give credit where it is due. They had a plan, they stuck at it and they released all the way through.

“It [visiting their dressing room] is the right thing to do, I am on the wrong side of it today but good men, well deserved victory. Also nice to see another southern hemisphere team I guess in a different way and we are good pals.”

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It was last year at the same round two stage of the tournament when the Junior Boks endured another ambush, Italy beating them in the mud of Paarl. South Africa were able to shrug off that loss, squeezing past Argentina in their final pool match to top the pool and secure semi-final qualification.

However, they face a far stiffer challenge than in 2023 if they are to keep alive their proud record of making the semi-final at every World Rugby U20 Championship bar 2011 when they finished fifth.

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Only a win over England where the match points outcome is 5-0 can put them level with the English on 10 points and see them top the pool on the head-to-head ruling. A win that isn’t as generous would see them finish second in the pool and likely need the Pool A game between Wales and France to end in a draw if they are to progress as the sole best runner-up.

That quite a tall order but Nhleko promised his team will go down fighting at Athlone next Tuesday. “We are always going to believe in ourselves to fight back. It’s not through lack of effort that we lost today or anything like that… and we have to believe.

“We are not sure what is going to happen in the other game but if we do the right things, we can always give ourselves a chance and hopefully we will be on the right side of that.

“Probably discipline was one of the areas (that let us down). We released a lot of pressure on Argentina, that gave them energy and gave them energy at set-piece and we couldn’t really repel the maul for the first half at least.

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“If you take those two areas in particular it’s probably where we came up short. Outside of that we still tried to play, still tried to get ourselves into positions, but then error on error stacking up, it’s just difficult to win the game from that perspective.”

So second best were South Africa that Argentina had the four-try bonus point secured as early as the 48th minute, leaving home fans in the healthy Stellenbosch crowd disappointed with what they were seeing.

“We are devastated on their behalf,” continued Nhleko. “The one thing I am most disappointed in outside the result is the performance that we put up, especially for a crowd that made such a great effort to come in.

“They were fantastic, they supported us right until the end but it wasn’t to be. I am just sorry that we couldn’t really pull it through and give ourselves a better performance but let’s hope they stick by us and we hope to show the right character for the next game against England.”

The life of a coach is to inspire confidence in the players and staff around him, but who picks up Nhleko in a difficult time such as now when the odds are against the Junior Boks making the semi-finals at their home World Cup.

“My son is not heavy enough to pick me up but I’ll go home and he’ll smile and all those things. No, I think we have got a good support structure within our organisation, from our high performance manager, general manager.

“Again, I keep stressing, we understand the process, we understand what we are about and part of the bigger picture here is to win this thing but the biggest picture of it all is making sure that five, six, however many of these young boys, become Springboks in the near future.”

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Barry 138 days ago

Serious win. Worth double considering how juiced up them Currie cup boys would have been.

Got utterly arse-holed.

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Dave 138 days ago

Nice piece of sportsmanship diplomacy from Bafana. Full praise for the man.

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Bret 138 days ago

I never thought I’d see a Springboks team (no matter the age group) get beaten up in the mauls and lineouts and lose a game in this manner in their own country. Argentina gave them a hell of a game. Well done ARG!

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Jon 138 days ago

Sloppy game. Poor ball protection on carries and shockingly bad lineouts in the rain

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Flankly 138 days ago

Baby Bok complacency, after the outsize Fiji victory and previous wins vs Argentina. My guess is that they were looking ahead to the England game.

There is no excuse for the team not being more competitive. Win or lose they should have been in the game, but they just looked blunt, inaccurate and bereft of ideas. And it has probably cost them a shot at the title. Disappointing.

Well played Argentina.

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David 138 days ago

Wonderful result for SH rugby. A highly competitive future Argentina is very welcome.

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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