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The Mark McCall prediction about the departing Vunipola brothers

Mako, left, and Billy Vunipola prior to the 2020 Heineken Champions Cup clash with Leinster (Photo by Brendan Moran/Sportsfile via Getty Images)

Mark McCall has predicted what Billy and Mako Vunipola might be capable of in rugby when their respective playing careers come to an end. Saracens confirmed on Tuesday that the 31- and 33-year-old brothers will exit the English Gallagher Premiership club at the end of this season.

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There should be plenty of rugby-playing days ahead yet elsewhere for the pair, but their current director of rugby has suggested that both are capable of becoming coaches to be reckoned with when they finally retire from playing.

“They are two of the keenest rugby minds that I have come across in players,” vouched McCall when he hosted on Tuesday his last regular season media briefing of the season ahead of next Saturday’s home clash with Sale.

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“Two guys who could go on and coach if they choose to go down that path because their understanding and innate knowledge of the game is so strong.

“Certainly for us two amazing players, two amazing people, both at the heart of everything the club have achieved.”

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McCall admitted to some initial chats with the Vunipolas about coaching. “A little bit but not too much at the moment because all eyes are on the task in hand,” he said, referencing Saracens’ ambition to retain their 2022/23 Premiership title.

“The player has got to show an appetite for it. There is no point in forcing someone down that path. Most clubs do a good job of making sure players consider what they are going to do when their careers come to an end.

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“I’m not sure if Mako and Billy’s career is coming to an end just yet… but I’m sure Mako and Billy have a good idea what they want to do when they retire from rugby.”

In the club’s statement earlier on Tuesday confirming Mako’s impending exit, McCall claimed: “Few players change how their position is played. Mako’s all-around skillset, rugby intelligence, and physicality made us, as coaches, rethink what’s possible from a loosehead prop.”

Asked to elaborate on that rethink, McCall said: “Maybe I’m being unfair to loosehead props before Mako arrived whenever it was, 2011.

“But his skill level, ability to do things on the ball, his ability to see space, take space, I just think all of a sudden you have seen props the world over having those same attributes where maybe it wasn’t quite like that before.”

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And what about Billy and his standout attributes? “I think you just need to watch some of the film of his career to see. I wouldn’t want to say one thing but Billy for a while was the No1 eight in the world. I think everybody knows that.”

While the Vunipola brothers will be playing elsewhere in 2024/25, most likely across the Channel in France where they have been linked with Montpellier, McCall added that their ties with Saracens will endure.

“It’s really important,” he said on a day when it was also confirmed that Manu Vunipola, their cousin, will also exit Saracens. “In Billy and Mako’s case, it has been a decade of their lives. It’s a big part of your life when you are only 31, that’s a third of your life spent in this building with us day in, day out.

“You sometimes see the playing group and the staff more than you see your family. You can’t underestimate the strength of those relationships.

“That’s why there is some sadness of course because we won’t get to see them as much but they are not away yet and thankfully we can look to extend our time together by a couple of weeks at least (by reaching the Premiership final). That is something to really look forward to.

“What we have always said here is we want to look back on our time at the club as the best times of our lives, but that doesn’t need to end when you leave the club.

“You are always going to be part of the club and a lot of the memories Billy and Mako will have made will have been off the field. They have had some memorable moments on the field with the club but they have had some great moments with their friends that they have made.

“There are always characters coming behind, there always is. One of the things I have got to commend Billy and Mako for is the job they have done with our younger group. They want to leave a proper legacy behind and part of that legacy is to help the younger players who are developing, bubbling away under the surface.

“Both of them take the time to spend time with them to help them with their game. They help them on the field, they help them off the field and we are very grateful to them for that.”

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finn 221 days ago

I really feel like neither of the Vunipolas is given the respect they deserve. I would have liked to see both of them get a few more caps than they have gotten in the past couple of years, but unfortunately the fact that they both peaked young has meant that for a number of years they have been perceived as disappointments.

When they are both retired, in the cold light of day they will be recognised as two of the best players of their generation of any nation.

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finn 221 days ago

this generation of saracens players could produce some really incredible coaches. When Farrell retires he could walk into any premiership team as a defence, attack, or kicking coach. Itoje could make it as a defence or a lineout coach, and Jamie George as a lineout or scrum coach.

The problem the Vunipolas are going to have is that its not clear what their coaching speciality would be. Neither are great in the set piece, and while they were good in attack and defence, they were never tactical masterminds. Perhaps contact skills would be their ideal brief? Mako perhaps could work in strength & conditioning, but Billy has a bit of a reputation for not taking that side of the game seriously.

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JW 2 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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