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The message is writ-large: cherish Alun Wyn Jones before he unlaces his size 15s for the last time

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It’s the question no one wants the answer to – when will Alun Wyn Jones decide to unlace his size 15s for the last time? The talismanic lock has already played 134 times for Wales and nine times for the Lions in a position not known for slackers. 

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Dubbed the ‘engine room’, playing at lock requires hitting rucks, providing heft at scrum time, hard carries around the fringes, stretching every sinew in the air to reclaim balls off your fingertips and felling ball-carriers until your arms and shoulders are screaming for mercy. The Life of Riley it isn’t.

When Wales forwards coach Jonathan Humphreys last week said Jones could reach the 2023 World Cup, he was probably thinking aloud. For factual reference, the big man from the Gower would turn 38 in France. Not that that grand old age is unprecedented.

Victor Matfield played in the 2015 World Cup at 38 – but he’d taken a full year off and finished with 127 caps. Simon Shaw played in his last Test at the 2011 World Cup at 37 but had only played a modest 73 times for England, while Brad Thorn was another to hit 36 but he played for the All Blacks a paltry 59 times. 

If Alun Wyn plays ten games a year until France, he’ll be pushing in the region of 170 to 180 Test caps. Now that’s unprecedented!

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If you add the 250-plus appearances he has already made for the Ospreys, he will comfortably pass 400 professional games in 2020. These sorts of giddy statistics make him look like he has the sort of genetics boasted by a member of the Marvel Comics family, not a mere mortal. 

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It could happen but the odds are stacked against it. Take Paul O’Connell. He looked indestructible up to the 2015 World Cup before a hamstring injury deprived him of his French swansong with Toulon and the further you get in advancing years, the higher the probability of being written off.

If Wayne Pivac and his Welsh management are doing a fine line in Plan Bs, they should be prepping for the future after the next Lions series. Jones will turn 36 by the 2021 autumn series and may have decided to take a deserved rest. 

If that does transpire, Wales have a maximum of 17 games to decide on the person to take Wales forward. This year’s summer tour to New Zealand and Japan may provide a dry-run, depending on whether Jones and the Wales management decide the 12,000-mile trip is best for his longevity. A summer off would seem the sensible option.

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There’s no doubt he is a force of nature and an inspirational leader. If you cast your mind back to August and the Wales vs Ireland pre-World Cup friendly, Josh Navidi captained Wales. Navidi is a fine player but on the day, the absence of Jones was keenly felt on the field. You could see it and you could feel it. Wales just didn’t look sum of their parts.

A three-tour Test Lion, Jones knits a Welsh side together like no one else in the modern era – and that includes Sam Warburton. He will soon pass Ryan Jones to sit second in leading Wales and you only had to witness the influence he exerted against Saracens on his recent return to Ospreys duty to see the galvanising effect he had.

Cajoling his pack in rolling mauls, politely questioning the referee on his decision making, he was at his cantankerous best and it should be said after 12 weeks out, he threw himself about with the abandon of an (oversized) spring foal. It was also Jones who expressed his dismay at the woeful season endured by Ospreys fans and players. There was no one else in Welsh rugby who could speak with such gravitas.

His fellow Osprey Justin Tipuric is another player to have worn the Wales armband in his absence, notably against Uruguay and the Barbarians. Tipuric is a players’ player; loyal, brave to a fault and so gifted he can play in the centre – as he did against Munster in this most dispiriting domestic season – but you sense he would not put himself forward to lead Wales on enthusiasm grounds, only a sense of duty. 

A key part of the leadership group, yes, but not long-term ‘skips’. Taulupe Faletau is another individual of rare ability but he is not naturally gregarious and verbose. Sometimes in-game or in a changing room, someone of a vociferous nature is required.

Someone who would be a natural fit is Ken Owens. He’s passionate, puts his body on the line and is a first-choice pick but at only 20 months younger than Jones, he could be a long-shot for France and that gives him longer odds. Another candidate is Ellis Jenkins. He has all the hallmarks for the role but is coming back from a 15-month injury lay-off and the hope is he returns to the sort of form he had pre-injury. He will need time.

This brings us to viable alternatives. It is unlikely that Wales would look to a full-back, as Scotland have with Stuart Hogg, and would look closer to the pack. For the reasons mentioned already, Dan Biggar and Hadleigh Parkes can be discounted on age-profile and therefore two men who could fit the bill are a duo from the unfancied Dragons.

Aaron Wainwright is only 22 – the same age as Sam Warburton when he took the captain’s armband – but he has similar traits. A back row, he has raw athletic ability, a clean-cut personality and is someone who leads by thought and deed. He’s also a slightly more gregarious character and looks to be a player who will be in and around the Wales set-up for the next decade.


The other player who could be an option for Wales is Alun Wyn’s partner, Cory Hill. You cannot underestimate how highly the previous Welsh management valued Hill having found space for him in the squad for Japan at the expense of Samson Lee and Rob Evans. 

The word that kept cropping up in missives about Hill was ‘leadership’, an intangible yet precious commodity. Indeed, in a previous interview with Eddie Jones, we were once told that only Dylan Hartley and Owen Farrell had ‘natural’ leadership qualities in the England squad, but Hill has it in spades. 

Of course, we’re told that ‘everyone is a leader now’ in controversy-free press conferences, but you need a frontman to deal with the media and essentially run a team from Thursday, which is what the erstwhile Jones expected Hartley to do when the Lion’s share of the training had been completed. It’s something Joe ‘Tinkerman’ Schmidt reputedly failed to do with Rory Best in Japan.

Hill turns 28 during the tournament and has the age profile and personality to lead Wales effectively. Indeed his biggest hurdle is becoming a regular first-team starter, so the news he has been mooted as an option at blindside for certain games can be seen as a help or hindrance to that aim, depending on your point of view.

It bears repeating that Jones will be one of the few internationals who will go out on his own terms, but it would be remiss of Pivac not to start planning for a post-AWJ future however unpalatable that may be for rugby fans of a Welsh persuasion.

This will be his 15th year of Test rugby since taking his first tentative steps in 2006 in Argentina. If Jones hangs up his boots and retires the No4 shirt after next year’s Six Nations, it will mark the end of an era. In 14 months the idea he could to take his place among the Welsh greats is no longer fanciful.

The message is writ-large: cherish him while you can. Just don’t ask him when he’s retiring!

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JW 2 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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