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Heavyweight prop snubbed by Gatland who bench presses 210kg ready for Six Nations debut

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Wales’ winter regime change has given WillGriff John, the 20-stone Sale Sharks prop, the chance to prove he can be a major force at international level after he was named in Wayne Pivac’s first Six Nations squad.

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The New Zealander, who has replaced Warren Gatland as head coach of the recent World Cup semi-finalists, was unable to pick Exeter Chiefs tighthead Tomas Francis who is still recovering from the shoulder injury suffered in Japan.

That created a vacancy for a heavyweight tighthead prop to be included and while John, 27, failed to convince Gatland he was ready for Test rugby, Pivac had been a regular visitor this winter to the Sale Sharks training ground outside Manchester to keep updated on the prop’s form.

Jonathan Humphreys, the new Wales forwards coach, also took a close interest in the 6ft 2in former Cardiff Blues prop, whose 2017 arrival in the Premiership has now been rewarded with an international level call-up. 

“I knew the Welsh management were watching me and I was told at the start of the season it was a whole new coaching staff and set-up and they were going to look at everyone and leave no stone unturned,” said John to RugbyPass. 

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“The most frustrating thing (under Gatland) was that I had never been told why I wasn’t a part of the squad. The advantage of a whole new set-up is that they will pick whoever they think is best.”

Born in Plymouth but raised in Rhondda, the former Wales under-20s player began his career with Pontypridd before playing for Cardiff Blues before he then headed to New Zealand where he appeared for Northland. 

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He then returned to England and joined Doncaster Knights where his form caught the attention of Steve Diamond, Sale’s director of rugby. 

John moved up to the Gallagher Premiership in 2017 and he currently shares the No3 jersey with 30-cap Coenie Oosthuizen, who arrived at the club this season from the Super Rugby Sharks, joining a large contingent of Springboks in Manchester.

John’s unusual Christian name is an amalgamation of his two grandfathers which does cause confusion. “When you go to the doctors you get called John and it does cause some confusion for a lot of people, but I’m used to it now. 

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“My dad came up with the name and his dad was Griffith and my Mum’s father was William. He just thought it would be good to put them together. I was born in Plymouth, went to Australia when I was quite young, came back at five and grew up in the Rhondda and played at Pontypridd.”

John appeared in all of Sale’s 22 Premiership fixtures last season and has benefitted from the experience of Rob Webber, the former England hooker, but he goes into the Wales set-up knowing he faces stiff competition from Dillon Lewis (Cardiff Blues) and Leon Brown (Dragons).

“I went out to play in New Zealand and it was really helpful for my career because the rugby was so much quicker than I had experienced before. I played in a New Zealand Barbarians game against the Auckland Blues and when I got my head out of the scrum, the ball was on the far side of the pitch! 

“I came back and joined Doncaster and the hope was that I could then join a Welsh region but that didn’t work out. At Doncaster, it took a while to get used to the way teams scrummaged and how they went for penalties, but in the last 18 months, it kind of clicked. Things were going well and I got the chance to join Sale. 

“The move up to the Premiership was hard in that the ball is in play for much longer – it can be upwards of 40 minutes. When you play against the best teams the speed of the game is the big difference and that was the hardest thing to adapt to. ”

John’s large frame was developed in his teenage years, weight training in Wales, and it helped him get at a taste of international rugby – although one match was particularly difficult. 

He played for the Wales under-20s team alongside current internationals  Liam Williams (Saracens) and Cory Hill (Dragons) when they lost 92-0 to New Zealand in 2011. 

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Beauden Barrett in action against WillGriff John during New Zealand’s big 2011 under-20s win over Wales in Rovigo (Photo by Claudio Villa/Getty Images)

The ‘Baby Blacks’ had a formidable line up: Beauden Barrett; Waisake Naholo, Rhys Llewellyn, Lima Sopoaga, Charles Piutau; Gareth Anscombe, TJ Perenara; Ben Tameifuna, Codie Taylor, Solomona Sakalia, Brodie Retallick, Steven Luatua, Brad Shields, Sam Cane and Luke Whitelock (capt).

“That under-20s team is close to the current All Blacks team and it is amazing how many of them went on to Test rugby,” reflected John. 

“I can’t explain why we lost so heavily in that match and going into the game we didn’t know too much about them. When you look back at it now you realise exactly who they were how well drilled they were as a team.”

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Jfp123 26 minutes ago
France push All Blacks to 80th minute in narrow Dunedin defeat

So, you think top rugby players’ wages ought to be kept artificially low, when in fact the forces of “demand and supply” mean that many can and indeed are commanding wages higher than you approve of, and even though players regularly get injured, and those injuries can be serious enough to cut short careers and even threaten lives, e.g. Steven Kitshoff.

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As far as I can make out your objections amount to

1) they’ve sent a B team, which is not what we do and I don’t like it. Is there more to it than that? You haven’t replied to the points I made previously about sell out Tests and high ticket prices, so I take it reduced earnings are no longer part of your argument. Possibly you’re disappointed at not seeing Dupont et al., but a lot of New Zealanders think he is over rated anyway.


2) The Top 14 is paying players too much, leading to wage inflation around the world which is bad for the sport.

Firstly, young athletes have a range of sports to choose from, so rugby holding out the prospect of a lucrative, glamorous career helps attract talent.

Above all, market forces mean the French clubs earn a lot of money, and spend a large part of that money on relatively high wages, within a framework set by the league to maintain the health of the league. This framework includes the salary cap and Jiff rules which in effect limit the number of foreign stars the clubs employ and encourage the development of young talent, so there is a limit on Top14 demand. The Toulon of the 2010s is a thing of the past.


So yes, the French clubs cream off some top players - they are competitive sports teams, what do expect them to do with their money? - but there’s still a there’s a plentiful supply of great rugby players and coaches without French contracts. The troubles in England and Wales were down to mismanagement of those national bodies, and clubs themselves, not the French


So if you don’t want to let market forces determine wage levels, and you do want to prevent the French clubs from spending so much of their large incomes on players, how on earth do you want to set player wages?


Is the problem that NZ can’t pay so much as the Top 14 and you fear the best players will be lured away and/or you want NZ franchises to compete for leading international talent? Are you asking for NZ wage scales to be adopted as the maximum allowed, to achieve this? But in that case why not take Uruguay, or Spain, or Tonga or Samoa as the standard, so Samoa, a highly talented rugby nation, can keep Samoan players in Samoa, not see them leave for higher wages in NZ and elsewhere.

Rugby is played in lots of countries, with hugely varying levels of financial backing etc. Obviously, it’s more difficult for some than others, but aside for a limited amount of help from world rugby, it’s up to each one to make their sums add up, and make the most of the particular advantages their nation/club/franchise has. SA are not the richest, but are still highly successful, and I don’t hear them complaining about Top14 wages.


Many, particularly second tier, nations benefit from the Top14, and anyone genuinely concerned about the whole community of world rugby should welcome that. England and NZ have laid down rules so they can’t make the most of the French competition, which is up to them. But unlike some NZ fans and pundits, the English aren’t generally blaming their own woes on the French, rather they want reform of the English structure, and some are calling for lessons to learned from their neighbours across the channel. If NZ fans aren’t satisfied, I suggest they call for internal reform, not try to make the French scapegoats.


In my opinion, a breach of standards would be to include on your team players who beat up women, not to regularly send a B team on the summer tours for reasons of player welfare, which in all the years you’ve been doing this only some of the pundits and fans of a single country have made a stink about.


[my comments here are, of course, not aimed at all NZ fans and pundits]

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