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The one major difference from the Joe Schmidt era Paul O'Connell has spotted under Andy Farrell

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New Ireland assistant Paul O’Connell has outlined the one clear difference he has experienced so far during his short time working with the Andy Farrell regime compared to what he experienced as a player under Farrell’s predecessor Joe Schmidt.

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Talismanic second row O’Connell captained Schmidt’s Ireland to successive Six Nations titles before retiring from playing after an injury at the 2015 World Cup. He has since coached at different levels of the game, mixing experiences from the Munster academy with Ireland U20s and Stade Francais. 

Inactive since leaving the Stade set-up under Heyneke Meyer in June 2019, O’Connell was sounded out by Ireland boss Farrell after their third-place Autumn Nations Cup finish last December to see might he be interested in becoming involved at Test level.  

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It was a surprise offer as he didn’t sense there was an opportunity there. However, he agreed to become Ireland’s forwards coach and he has found one aspect of his experience so far contrastingly different to what he had previously known under the Schmidt regime six years ago.  

Appearing at his first media conference since it was announced on January 7 he was joining the Farrell ticket, O’Connell was asked if he had been struck by any noticeable then and now contrasts so far in the preparations for next Sunday’s Guinness Six Nations opener away to Wales.   

“We are in the HPC now and that has made a big change to it because you have pitch-side televisions, you have TVs in the gym so you are able to have these mini-meetings, short meetings where you are able to go from a meeting to a little bit of technical work back to meeting to a little bit of technical work,” he said, highlighting how the team now trains at a rugby specific facility at Sports Campus Ireland rather at Carton House, their hotel base.  

“There was going to be a natural change anyway from when Joe finished to when Andy took over. When we had meetings with Joe, he loved a meeting. He was box office when he delivered and he was always trying to keep everything under 30 minutes so there wasn’t a lot of questions.

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“But I always enjoyed then debating things after the meeting with him and I never felt like I couldn’t question him or argue with him and I loved his environment. It’s probably similar here, just shorter meetings because there is more time for questioning. 

“In fairness, the question that Tom O’Toole asks in a meeting today and the answer he gets is probably a question that seven or eight people should be asking as well so it’s probably good that we have those discussions and debates. And that’s the way players learn now. It’s isn’t about long meetings. 

“It’s short, sharp meetings, they watch things on their phone. You can send them things on their phone. That wasn’t there towards the end of my time when I retired. We were into a meeting, into the group, we had a meeting, it was generally half an hour long and hen the questioning would happen afterwards over dinner or lunch or whatever that was. It’s different here. 

“Look, the Crusaders have been very good at it from when you chat to Rog [Ronan O’Gara, the ex-Crusaders assistant now at La Rochelle], it’s collaborative, trying to get players to coach, trying to get them to own what they are doing. If someone can coach something, explain it really well to someone else, they know what they are doing and it’s a great way to check for their learning and their understanding.”

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Reflecting on Farrell reaching out to him to come and join Ireland, O’Connell admitted the approach took him by surprise. “It did. I would speak to him [Farrell] a lot and I would speak to other coaches a lot. I just find watching the game interesting. 

“I find even the rugby matches that people find boring these days where there is a lot of kicking, I always find it interesting trying to figure out why teams are doing what they are doing. There is generally a logical reason behind it so I’d always be picking up the phone to coaches. But we hadn’t ever discussed that so it was a surprise.”

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JW 2 minutes ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

Like I've said before about your idea (actually it might have been something to do with mine, I can't remember), I like that teams will a small sustainable league focus can gain the reward of more consistent CC involvement. I'd really like the most consistent option available.


Thing is, I think rugby can do better than footballs version. I think for instance I wanted everyone in it to think they can win it, where you're talking about the worst teams not giving up because they are so far off the pace we get really bad scoreline when that and giving up to concentrate on the league is happening together.


So I really like that you could have a way to remedy that, but personally I would want my model to not need that crutch. Some of this is the same problem that football has. I really like the landscape in both the URC and Prem, but Ireland with Leinster specifically, and France, are a problem IMO. In football this has turned CL pool stages in to simply cash cow fixtures for the also ran countries teams who just want to have a Real Madrid or ManC to lose to in their pool for that bumper revenue hit. It's always been a comp that had suffered for real interest until the knockouts as well (they might have changed it in recent years?).


You've got some great principles but I'm not sure it's going to deliver on that hard hitting impact right from the start without the best teams playing in it. I think you might need to think about the most minimal requirement/way/performance, a team needs to execute to stay in the Champions Cup as I was having some thougt about that earlier and had some theory I can't remember. First they could get entry by being a losing quarter finalist in the challenge, then putting all their eggs in the Champions pool play bucket in order to never finish last in their pool, all the while showing the same indifference to their league some show to EPCR rugby now, just to remain in champions. You extrapolate that out and is there ever likely to be more change to the champions cup that the bottom four sides rotate out each year for the 4 challenge teams? Are the leagues ever likely to have the sort of 'flux' required to see some variation? Even a good one like Englands.


I'd love to have a table at hand were you can see all the outcomes, and know how likely any of your top 12 teams are going break into Champions rubyg on th back it it are?

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fl 3 hours ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

"Right, so even if they were the 4 worst teams in Champions Cup, you'd still have them back by default?"

I think (i) this would literally never happen, (ii) it technically couldn't quite happen, given at least 1 team would qualify via the challenge cup, so if the actual worst team in the CC qualified it would have to be because they did really well after being knocked down to the challenge cup.

But the 13th-15th teams could qualify and to be fair I didn't think about this as a possibility. I don't think a team should be able to qualify via the Champions Cup if they finish last in their group.


Overall though I like my idea best because my thinking is, each league should get a few qualification spots, and then the rest of the spots should go to the next best teams who have proven an ability to be competitive in the champions cup. The elite French clubs generally make up the bulk of the semi-final spots, but that doesn't (necessarily) mean that the 5th-8th best French clubs would be competitive in a slimmed down champions cup. The CC is always going to be really great competition from the semis onwards, but the issue is that there are some pretty poor showings in the earlier rounds. Reducing the number of teams would help a little bit, but we could improve things further by (i) ensuring that the on-paper "worst" teams in the competition have a track record of performing well in the CC, and (ii) by incentivising teams to prioritise the competition. Teams that have a chance to win the whole thing will always be incentivised to do that, but my system would incentivise teams with no chance of making the final to at least try to win a few group stage matches.


"I'm afraid to say"

Its christmas time; there's no need to be afraid!

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