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The one question everyone is asking as 'scared' Wales confirm schedule

NICE, FRANCE - SEPTEMBER 16: Wales Head Coach Warren Gatland looks on during the pre match warm up ahead of the Rugby World Cup France 2023 match between Wales and Portugal at Stade de Nice on September 16, 2023 in Nice, France. (Photo by Craig Mercer/MB Media/Getty Images)

Wales’ Autumn Nations Series schedule announcement has been met with one response- where is Georgia?

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The fixtures for Wales’ November were revealed on Monday, with Warren Gatland’s side taking on Fiji, Australia and South Africa in consecutive weeks.

However, fans had been teased with the idea of a clash between the Guinness Six Nations Wooden Spoon recipients and the Rugby Europe Championship winners Georgia.

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This came after Georgia publicly called out Wales on social media in March, proposing a meeting between the two in Tbilisi. While this seemed like nothing more than a publicity stunt, Wales turned the dial up when they responded to the message on social media by saying they will be “in touch”.

Whether the two sides were in touch or not is not clear, but nothing has come from the episode in March, which has left fans online thoroughly disappointed.

After announcing their schedule online, the comments section was almost filled up entirely with fans questioning what happened to the match against Georgia that was dangled in front of them.

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“Gatland’s Dragons running from the Georgian Grind?” “Scared to play Georgia?” and “They ducked Georgia,” are just some of the comments which give a glimpse into how this schedule has been received.

Other fans are still holding out hope that the Georgia fixture will be announced at a later date. With the first match of the autumn coming against Fiji on November 10, there is the potential to face Georgia the weekend before and still remain within the Test window. However, that is just wishful thinking from fans as it stands.

While a potential match between Wales and Georgia would not have any bearing on the make-up of the Six Nations next year, Georgia described it as the match “rugby lovers everywhere want to see” as it would be a bellwether as to where the bottom team of the Six Nations stands compared to the rest of Europe.

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Simon 211 days ago

Quite frankly, all this is a bit pathetic. The first time Wales get the Wooden Spoon in 21 years and everyone is on the bandwagon for a ‘play-off’ game.
Wales have no obligation to Georgia and no obligation to the rest of the Six Nations to play such a game.
If they want Georgia in so badly then they need to include South Africa into a Northern Hemisphere competition with 2 leagues of 4 teams with the top 2 competing for the Championship.
Sadly, this will end Triple Crowns and Grand Slams forever.
Is this really what you want?

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MattJH 211 days ago

Both nations missed a great opportunity to book a game that would have had a lot of interest from around the world.
I understand these games can’t be organised in 5 minutes but they should have found a way to make it happen.
I don’t think Wales are ducking anyone but it’s a bad look haha.

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Turlough 212 days ago

It’s not up to Wales to support Georgian Rugby. That’s up to International Rugby and Georgia. I sympathise with Georgia’s decent attempt to create this fixture. But for Wales the proposed match up is just a potential stick to beat them with and a potential big psychological blow that young Welsh team doesn’t need.
(I’m Irish BTW.)

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Flankly 212 days ago

Sad that this was not confirmed.

When administrators talk about expanding the game they evidently don’t include pathways to the top tier of rugby for teams outside of the old boys club.

Rugby deserves better, and certainly Georgia does.

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JW 2 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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