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The Owen Farrell conversations Lancaster is most looking forward to

Owen Farrell in action for England at France 2023 (Photo by Franck Fife/AFP via Getty Images)

Racing 92 boss Stuart Lancaster has spoken about the challenge of trying to successfully gel former England captain Owen Farrell into a strong leadership group with Siya Kolisi, the two-time Springboks Rugby World Cup-winning skipper, and Gael Fickou, a talisman of the France national team under Fabien Galthie.

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Farrell, who took a Test rugby sabbatical following England’s bronze medal finish at the recent World Cup, is set to join Lancaster, his former national team boss, in Paris on a two-year deal, starting with the 2024/25 Top 14 season.

Racing are currently third in the league in Lancaster’s first season in charge, winning their last four top-flight games after a five-game losing streak earlier this spring ratcheted up the pressure on the 2012-2015 England coach who moved to France following a seven-year stint as senior coach at Leo Cullen’s Leinster.

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Lancaster has now reflected on that mid-season unease in his latest episode of his Leaders on Leaders YouTube series, while also sharing his thoughts on the imminent arrival of Farrell this summer.

Asked what Racing expect from Farrell, the 32-year-old looking to lead Saracens to Gallagher Premiership glory before he exits England, Lancaster said: “He will bring a lot. As a player, he has played for England over 100 times. For me, he gets poor press in England because they perceive he is a kicking fly-half or plays for Saracens.

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“Anyone who watches Saracens, the last two years in particular, will see how good rugby he has played and how much of a factor he is within that. You speak to any of the players who have played with him on Lions tours or England players, not one person has a bad word to say about him in terms of what he delivers.

“His understanding of the game is excellent, his quality as a player is obviously excellent. And his leadership credentials are excellent also, but this is going to be very similar to my challenge coming in. Hopefully I’ll help him with that.

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“How does he get his message across? How long does he take? Will he take six weeks before he starts holding people to account? Will he find his feet straight away and lead straight away? These are all topics of conversation I am really looking forward to having with him.

“We have spoken quite a few times. He has got his Saracens head on very much at the moment but very, very soon he will be leaving  Saracens and he will be coming over here July 1 with pre-season looming.

“So with him, with Siya Kolisi, with Gael Fickou who does a lot of the leadership within the French team, what an amazing coaching challenge to try and harness those three players into a strong leadership group supported by your Henry Chavancys, your Cameron Wokis and the other guy, the Nolann le Garrecs who will be future leaders of the team. He will bring a huge amount but it’s not going to be easy, as I found.

“I was speaking to Siya Kolisi only the other day – he has not found it easy. It’s a lot easier for him in South Africa where everyone loves and adores him and he is with his mates who he has grown up with and he misses them.

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“I said to him, ‘Well, I miss Dublin, I miss Leinster, I miss the players, I miss the coaches, miss the people but I needed to do this to challenge myself and to work out where my own strengths and weaknesses are’.

“It definitely has done that with the five-game losses and loads of other things, and Owen will find that and he will return to Saracens maybe as a player or as a coach – maybe as a player/coach, who knows – he will return far better for the experience because it will expose him in areas and it will make him reflect in areas.

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“Hopefully I guess I’d deep down pleased that Andy and Coleen trust me with their son’s development, you know what I mean? So I’ll be there to sort of hopefully guide and steer them as well. We go back long enough. Even though we have not really spoken since I left England, I am sure we can pick up our relationship from when we were together.

“Hopefully there is an advantage in that he knows what it is going to look and feel like. For any player coming to France, particularly when you don’t speak the language that well, having an English-speaking person in the coaching team helps but I don’t think he is just going to speak English.

“Our relationship goes back a while and yeah, it [the recruitment] just happened to be the right place right time. I’m really looking forward to it, looking forward to the challenge of, ‘Can we create a winning team? Can we do it in a year or two years?’”

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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